Skip to comments.7 Questions for Mitt About Mormonism [Well, 2 questions at least re: Race & Abortion]
Posted on 04/10/2012 10:49:07 AM PDT by Colofornian
...it is past time for Mitt Romney to address relevant questions about his religion.
These are not questions about the afterlife or sacred clothing, but questions about how some of the distinctive aspects of doctrine of...Latter-Day Saints might inform his approach to governing.
...Romney has been less forthcoming about how Mormon beliefs have shaped him.
...Romney held a post of...authority in his church.
...He was a recognized, theologically defined church authority in the Boston area -- for more than a decade.
...LDS teaching about racial equality: From the church declaration issued in 1978: "...by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood... Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color."
Gov. Romney was 31 years old when this revelation was announced and proclaimed a new and radical (in the sense of it being absolute) theological equality of all races. How did he feel about the prior teaching and the new? Did this event inform his thinking about racial issues?
...LDS teaching about abortion:
"The Church opposes elective abortion for personal or social convenience. Members must not submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for an abortion. The only possible exceptions are when:
1. Pregnancy resulted from rape or incest.
2. A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy.
3. A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.
Even these exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion...should be considered only after the persons responsible have consulted with their bishops and received divine confirmation through prayer."
Has this teaching informed his thinking on this issue?...
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From the article: ...it is past time for Mitt Romney to address relevant questions about his religion. These are not questions about the afterlife or sacred clothing, but questions about how some of the distinctive aspects of doctrine of...Latter-Day Saints might inform his approach to governing....Romney has been less forthcoming about how Mormon beliefs have shaped him.
And the vetting by the media gets an early start...with the MSM & the GoP establishment coronating Romney early, the gates are opening wider...#1 -- with the racial violence that's occurred every year -- but with the MSM highlighting it early in 2012 -- the Mormon church racism & Romney's failure to either address it or even repudiate this past now, will be the top focus...
From the article: Gov. Romney was 31 years old when this revelation was announced and proclaimed a new and radical (in the sense of it being absolute) theological equality of all races. How did he feel about the prior teaching and the new? Did this event inform his thinking about racial issues?
We've already raised this issue DOZENS of times on FR -- including Romney's age (31) whereby his first 13 adult years were imbedded in this racist practice and doctrine. What we've been raising on FR...the MSM eventually will get to it.
Translation: The Mormon church likes to be able for incest perpetrators to cover up their crimes.
From the article re: Lds church position on abortion: 2. A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy.
90% or more of all abortions are don't by "competent physicians" -- but by full-time (sometimes circuit-riding) abortionists. So much for the Mormon church placing their trust in "competent 'physicians'." They are quite efficient butchers, harvesting body parts as well.
From the article re: Lds church position on abortion: 3. A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.
And now the Mormon church entrusts abortionists to be able to be prophetic as diagnosticians re: the disabled, eh? (Pathetic)
From the article re: Lds church position on abortion: Even these exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion...should be considered only after the persons responsible have consulted with their bishops and received divine confirmation through prayer."
Ah...the worst -- and most wide-open to abuse exception any deceiving church could ever create..."why if God says in prayer it's "OK" to vacuum that baby limb by limb from the womb, go for it" -- announces the highest leaders from the Mormon church.
Disgusting. God will hold Mormon leaders and their lacky grassroots members accountable for this!!!!
From the article: Has this teaching informed his thinking on this issue?...
You bet! The Mormon church is rather ambivalent about protecting the disabled...and protecting reputations (if the Mormon god wants to contribute to being a party in their mass-murder scheme in their pregnancies' 'cover-up' via "prayer" and "answered prayer")
Romney...he ensured that taxpayers contributed more $ to abortions in MA...
He also ensured an abortion industry rep would be a permanent oversight member of RomneyCare.
And offspring? Romney said -- over three years after a so-called pro-life "conversion" -- that they were disposable...that parents could "donate" their offspring to "research" and that would be A-"OK." [Source: Katie Couric interview with Romney, early December 2007]
PS, Team Obama must love your efforts too.
You are like Ground Hog Day, every day you beat the same drum. Can’t you think of anything new to say? Abortion is settled law. Period!
There are Mormon Missionaries all over the world, Govt. Permitting. So if they are in Africa, the Caribbean proselytizing, just maybe the Mormons are not raciest?
One more time, if Mormons are willing to kill the baby before the rapist is identified, tried and executed, what does this say about their belief in the rule of law, and forensic science?
Me? I think Obama's religious expressions & religious ties are "fair game" on these threads & this site?
You? If your comments were meant to appeal to some standard to be applied to all POTUS candidates, then whatever you are defending Romney for here also would apply to Obama. If you fall back on the old line that attacking somebody's religion is "out of bounds," then in order for you to remove yourself from the obvious realm of hypocrisy, then you should go after those anti-Obama religion posters and call them "bigots," too.
The fact that you don't shows how two-faced you are...and how your convictions "mindbend" in the wind...
(There's still time to head into these threads & toss your fave liberal word, 'bigot' all around...
* "A" Son of God?
* Obama praised and pummeled on matters of faith [LA Times]
* Unfamiliar with his Christian beliefs, Obama declares Jesus had doubts)
And on this thread last week, there was probably more attacking of Obama from religious angles than Romney...Hatch: Obama camp will 'throw Mormon church' at Romney [opening Ldsism...not throwing tis enough]
Quick, Mindbender! Rush in as leader of the "Bigot Patrol" and hurl invectives at all people who make negative comments of presidential candidates!
Since I doubt you will, tis obvious that what you're really defending here is not the religious convictions of POTUS candidates, but rather slaughter in the womb and prejudice of skin color...
1 vote doesn't make "settled law"~!
No, it's not.
Slavery was "settled law, too."
Murder won't last forever. Jesus died so that death would die. (It's our final enemy, says the Bible)
Nor does whatever "legality" afforded abortion = us having to give cover to politicians (like Romney) who tout it as an "option."
Luckily most people with IQs above their hat size see through this idiocy.
This election is about the diselection of Obama and the future of the country, and please do not waste time preaching about if we don’t ban abortion, etc. we don’t deserve to exist.
Save that for the Klan rally.
Once that Waterloo is crossed, forget about God staving off any deserved judgment of this country.
When conservatives & conservative Christians become -- of all people --
--catalysts & apologists for socialism...
...catalysts & apologists for abortion...
...and catalysts & apologists for "I'm-the-god-you-get-to-vote-for" Romney -- otherwise historically known as "idolatry" (coupled with the aiding & abetting idol-worshipers)...
...they lose ANY provocation whatsoever about abortion & socialism & liberalism...
...say goodbye not only to the GoP...
...but the U S of A.
Obviously sin has existed in every culture -- including "institutional sin." So that alone cannot be the only basis for God's judgment. What has made a culture ripe for God's judgment is the lack of salt & light & preservative righteousness found within those cultures:
2 Chron. 7:14 puts the burden on God's people -- not simply on the culture at-large.
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
If God's people become part of the very problem of slaughtering offspring, depending upon govt instead of God (socialism), and lifting up men who claim they are a "god in embryo" as their "political savior," we invite God's judgment.
The same held true for Abraham interceding for cities in Genesis 18:
Genesis 18:23 Then Abraham approached him and said: Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?
What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
Far be it from you to do such a thingto kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?
The LORD said, If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.
what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people? If I find forty-five there, he said, I will not destroy it.
If there are NOT enough people who will refuse to vote for one of the two socialist, pro-abortion, POTUS liberals, judgment day will be upon us!
Whoa there. We’re talking about the Mormon church here, not some credible honest transparent organization. I have a relative who was serving in a church leadership position once be directly ordered by Thomas S. Monson himself to obstruct justice and allow a child molester to keep roaming the streets. My relative/friend disobeyed and as a result the child molester who had been excommunicated (but never reported to the police) was investigated and convicted. What did Monson then do? He retaliated in trying to get the Quorum of the Twelve to excommunicate my relative/friend. What has Monson done to repent of this? And if you or Monson doubt my story then I suggest you sue me for libel/slander. I’d look forward to my day in court on this.
If your account happened as you say it did, then what strings wouldn’t the Mormon “prophet” pull in treating the POTUS as his personal puppet?