Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

I Miss Women Wearing Hats and Veils in Church. A brief reminiscence of days gone by
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | april 10th, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/11/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-147 next last
To: Salvation

It shows respect for Our Lord in the Eucharist. I don’t
think He has changed on women covering their heads. It’s
a falling away, MO.

And one thing, less vanity, you don’t have to worry about
hair spray and a “do”, whether your hair looks nice.

It’s kinda tough to wear a mantilla to a Novus Ordo Mass
but you can wear a pretty scarf or one of those little
French hats, I forget their name.


81 posted on 04/11/2012 11:48:08 PM PDT by stpio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

“It’s kinda tough to wear a mantilla to a Novus Ordo Mass
but you can wear a pretty scarf or one of those little
French hats, I forget their name.”

~ ~ ~

I am thinking of a beanie. I have a mantilla and one
straw hat and some scarves. Our dog chewed on my black beanie.

There is a messenger from Australia. Have you heard of
her? Her name is Valentina. She has received some brief
messages or maybe it is one, on how to act at Holy Mass and about ladies covering their heads.

I’ll look for the message to share....


82 posted on 04/11/2012 11:58:30 PM PDT by stpio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; All

Salvation and ALL,

AMEN! We should do nothing to disturb someone’s worship.
In the Bible there are many practices OT and NT of prayer and worship that people can follow. This is their choice, as long as they are not physically harming anyone.
If this woman is just praying??

Well then, pray and PRAISE THE LORD!! AMEN!!

Just giving my “ thought” ( always GOD inspired) as asked.
But, hey, let’s see what the WORD says on these occassions:

ROMANS 14:1-22

1 Give a welcome to anyone whose faith is not strong, but do not get into arguments about doubtful points.

2 One person may have faith enough to eat any kind of food; another, less strong, will eat only vegetables.

3 Those who feel free to eat freely are not to condemn those who are unwilling to eat freely; nor must the person who does not eat freely pass judgement on the one who does — because God has welcomed him.

4 And who are you, to sit in judgement over somebody else’s servant? Whether he deserves to be upheld or to fall is for his own master to decide; and he shall be upheld, for the Lord has power to uphold him.

5 One person thinks that some days are holier than others, and another thinks them all equal. Let each of them be fully convinced in his own mind.

6 The one who makes special observance of a particular day observes it in honour of the Lord. So the one who eats freely, eats in honour of the Lord, making his thanksgiving to God; and the one who does not, abstains from eating in honour of the Lord and makes his thanksgiving to God.

7 For none of us lives for himself and none of us dies for himself;

8 while we are alive, we are living for the Lord, and when we die, we die for the Lord: and so, alive or dead, we belong to the Lord.

9 It was for this purpose that Christ both died and came to life again: so that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 Why, then, does one of you make himself judge over his brother, and why does another among you despise his brother? All of us will have to stand in front of the judgement-seat of God:

11 as scripture says: By my own life says the Lord, every knee shall bow before me, every tongue shall give glory to God.

12 It is to God, then, that each of us will have to give an account of himself.

13 Let us each stop passing judgement, therefore, on one another and decide instead that none of us will place obstacles in any brother’s way, or anything that can bring him down.

14 I am sure, and quite convinced in the Lord Jesus, that no food is unclean in itself; it is only if someone classifies any kind of food as unclean, then for him it is unclean.

15 And indeed, if through any kind of food you are causing offence to a brother, then you are no longer being guided by love. You are not to let the food that you eat cause the ruin of anyone for whom Christ died.

16 A privilege of yours must not be allowed to give rise to harmful talk;

17 for it is not eating and drinking that make the kingdom of God, but the saving justice, the peace and the joy brought by the Holy Spirit.

18 It is the person who serves Christ in these things that will be approved by God and respected by everyone.

19 So then, let us be always seeking the ways which lead to peace and the ways in which we can support one another.

20 Do not wreck God’s work for the sake of food. Certainly all foods are clean; but all the same, any kind can be evil for someone to whom it is an offence to eat it.

21 It is best to abstain from eating any meat, or drinking any wine, or from any other activity which might cause a brother to fall away, or to be scandalised, or to weaken.

22 Within yourself, before God, hold on to what you already believe. Blessed is the person whose principles do not condemn his practice.

DEUTERONOMY 22:12
12 ‘You must make tassels for the four corners of the cloak in which you wrap yourself.

1 CORINTHIANS 11:1-13

1 Take me as your pattern, just as I take Christ for mine.

2 I congratulate you for remembering me so consistently and for maintaining the traditions exactly as I passed them on to you.

3 But I should like you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

4 For any man to pray or to prophesy with his head covered shows disrespect for his head.

5 And for a woman to pray or prophesy with her head uncovered shows disrespect for her head; it is exactly the same as if she had her hair shaved off.

6 Indeed, if a woman does go without a veil, she should have her hair cut off too; but if it is a shameful thing for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, then she should wear a veil.

7 But for a man it is not right to have his head covered, since he is the image of God and reflects God’s glory; but woman is the reflection of man’s glory.

8 For man did not come from woman; no, woman came from man;

9 nor was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man:

10 and this is why it is right for a woman to wear on her head a sign of the authority over her, because of the angels.

11 However, in the Lord, though woman is nothing without man, man is nothing without woman;

12 and though woman came from man, so does every man come from a woman, and everything comes from God.

13 Decide for yourselves: does it seem fitting that a woman should pray to God without a veil?

PRAISE JESUS,

Jesus4life


83 posted on 04/12/2012 12:44:42 AM PDT by jesus4life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

‘I don’t attend an Orthodox synagogue so the men aren’t required to.” —> ok, I did not know that. I learn something new each day :)


84 posted on 04/12/2012 12:55:44 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
yup, it is difficult! I've lived here nearly 2 years now and have been going for classes for 1.5 years and I'm about able to carry out a moderate difficult conversation.

if you only know English, Polish is insanely difficult (I had the advantage of having learnt a few other languages before) as there are numerous things different in the language: cases, genders, declinations etc.

However, in pronunciation, once you learn how to pronounce, it is simpler than English as the letter or combination of letters is always pronounced the same

C is always pronounced as "ts"
rz is always pronounced as "sh" as in pleasure
ż is always pronounced as "sh" -- kind of similar to the "rz"
y is always pronounced as "ih"
w is always prounced as "v" in English
i is always pronounced as "ee"

So transliterating it is TsementAsh ShedoVskee

The emphasis is always on the penultimate syllable.

It's quite worth learning Polish, even as at a basic level from www.supermemo.pl etc. as I think it's good to know something of a few languages...

85 posted on 04/12/2012 1:02:02 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: Cronos

I’ve heard it said that English is one of the hardest languages to learn,if not THE hardest.

No wonder! You hear people say “Don’t got no”,”Ain’t got no”, “Where is it at?”,etc.

People trying to learn our language are going to be confused!


86 posted on 04/12/2012 1:12:44 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you,Pumpkin. You are the best cat in the world. You're my Sweet Pea.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
well, I attended a crash Polish language course with Erasmus students two years ago and these were folks from ll over Europe and also from Korea, Japan, China, india, bolivia, ethiopia etc. etc.

to them, english is the easiest to pick up as the basic rules are simple. however, to master English (to converse at a P.G. Wodehouse level) takes a lot of effort -- and most people who speak English as a native tongue never reach that level either!

87 posted on 04/12/2012 1:35:53 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Some people are just more competent parents than I am ... I admit it.


88 posted on 04/12/2012 5:55:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Indeed, most (not all) of the ladies at my parish’s TLM are covered. Most choose veils, and from what I understand, the online chapel veil business is booming. Even a short perusal through eBay will offer a bumper crop of new and vintage veils, from the doilies right on through giant Spanish mantillas.

This doesn’t even count the direct online businesses that sell veils. In addition to eBay and a Catholic goods store, I’ve purchased mine from both an importer of flamenco dance supplies AND an Orthodox Jewish headcovering business.

Regards,


89 posted on 04/12/2012 6:04:13 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

I visit family every Easter in Raleigh and stayed all summer last year. Their Catholic church is so packed, that in the summer it is SRO and during Easter etc. they have to have Mass in the Chapel, the gym, an auditorium AND outside-all at the SAME time. Last Easter Sunday, we sat in the entryway of the Church with about 40 or so others and received Communion out there as well.

All of the women and girls were dressed to the nines, most of the men were too-there were a few with shorts and jeans, but that is rare....it is so amazing to me the size of this parish campus! And they are expanding because they have to-obviously.

While I only saw a few adult women with Easter bonnets, just about every little girl was wearing one. It was so nice to see; it was how I remember Church to be years ago....I really do miss it!


90 posted on 04/12/2012 7:48:03 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

I visit family every Easter in Raleigh and stayed all summer last year. Their Catholic church is so packed, that in the summer it is SRO and during Easter etc. they have to have Mass in the Chapel, the gym, an auditorium AND outside-all at the SAME time. Last Easter Sunday, we sat in the entryway of the Church with about 40 or so others and received Communion out there as well.

All of the women and girls were dressed to the nines, most of the men were too-there were a few with shorts and jeans, but that is rare....it is so amazing to me the size of this parish campus! And they are expanding because they have to-obviously.

While I only saw a few adult women with Easter bonnets, just about every little girl was wearing one. It was so nice to see; it was how I remember Church to be years ago....I really do miss it!


91 posted on 04/12/2012 7:51:52 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hydrazine


92 posted on 04/12/2012 8:03:46 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Custody of the eyes
93 posted on 04/12/2012 8:10:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: A.A. Cunningham

No copy. Say again.


94 posted on 04/12/2012 8:16:38 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Jesus wanted people to attend, rich and poor alike.


95 posted on 04/12/2012 8:29:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hydrazine
Snopes apparently won't allow hot linking.

See:

http://www.snopes.com/history/graphics/jfk2.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/history/graphics/jfk7.jpg

JFK hat inauguration

96 posted on 04/12/2012 8:33:39 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Any mention of slobs?


97 posted on 04/12/2012 8:37:53 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: A.A. Cunningham

“Slob” is the slippery slope to snobbery. Faith is all that matters; not riches, hats, ties, or any other worldly item, not even a bath.


98 posted on 04/12/2012 8:57:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; murron; Tax-chick; ladyjane; netmilsmom; ottbmare; Persevero; Tamar1973; ...
A woman in her early to mid 20's wore a light yellow dress to last weekends Easter mass. It was made out of blouse material-very lightweight. The kicker was she was wearing a white thong underneath and the dress was so see through you could see the lace on the edges of the thong. Yes, no slip or any underclothes other than the thong. You should have seen people looking. The Eucharist minister after he gave her communion did a double take when she was walking away. I don;t know if she knew how see through it was but I expect she did as her BF was with her.

People dress like slobs in my church-shorts, jeans, sweat pants and most of the younger girls wear tight hip hugger jeans or those tight and short body hugging dresses.

I wear a suit and tie 5 days per week on my job and refuse to wear one at church. It's crammed down our necks at work-clothes have to be a certain color, style, ties have to be a certain pattern etc. I dress in Dockers/golf shirt or a button down when going to church. I did wear a tie on Sunday.

I have told people if I kick the bucket I want to be in the clothes I wear at the gym-one of my favorites places to be in life. T-shirt, gym pants and tennis shoes.

99 posted on 04/12/2012 9:21:42 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
Faith is all that matters

Incorrect as Scripture repeatedly teaches.

100 posted on 04/12/2012 9:40:48 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-147 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson