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To: stpio; daniel1212
This is why no will discuss Revelation 12:13 or reply to why Our Lord keeps addressing Mary as the “woman.”

Jesus does not address His mother as 'the' "woman". Rather, as "woman" as he more frequently addresses more women as He does throughout His ministry.

150 posted on 04/17/2012 11:36:38 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian)
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To: OLD REGGIE

“Putting aside the thread topic about some “prophet” prognosticating about the demise of half of the Roman Catholic Church “faithful” in the maybe near future, do you at least agree with Daniel’s point that the thread originator does NOT have the official sanctions to buttress his interpretation of the identity of the “woman” in Revelation 12? That really WAS Daniel’s main point, you know.”

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God knows what is going to happen, in His love He’s trying to tell you in prophecy through the words of Mary. Some Catholics will reject the 5th Marian Dogma when it is proclaimed, what do you imagine Protestants will do? You can change, it’s a sign of maturity to change when you discover something new about a subject that you previously rejected.

A child could identify the “woman” it’s not hard. Rev 12:13 ....he persecuted the woman, who brought forth the man child:

St. Ephrem’s quote, Mary is the “woman” in Genesis 3:15. He said this in the 4th century and the protest to reject Mary is the “woman” in Gen 3:15 came in the 16th century.

And in a hymn of St. Ephrem the Syrian (d. 373) we find, “The Lord hath spoken it: Satan is cast out of heaven. And Mary has trodden on him who struck at the heel of Eve. And blessed be He, who by His birth has destroyed the foe!” (17) Elsewhere, St. Ephrem explains that “Because the serpent had struck Eve with his claw, the foot of Mary bruised him”

Catechism of the Catholic Church

410 After his fall, man was not abandoned by God. On the contrary, God calls him and in a mysterious way heralds the coming victory over evil and his restoration from his fall.304 This passage in Genesis is called the
Protoevangelium (”first gospel”): the first announcement of the Messiah and Redeemer, OF A BATTLE BETWEEN THE SERPENT AND THE WOMAN, and of the final victory of a descendant of hers.

411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross”, makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.305 FURTHERMORE, MANY FATHERS AND DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH HAVE SEEN THE WOMAN ANNOUNCED IN THE PROTOEVANGEIUM AS MARY, THE
MOTHER OF CHRIST, the “new Eve”. Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.306

304 Cf. Gen 3:9,15.
305 Cf. 1 Cor 15:21-22,45; Phil 2:8; Rom 5:19-20
306 Cf. Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus: DS 2803; Council of Trent: DS 1573.


151 posted on 04/17/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by stpio
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To: OLD REGGIE

This is why no will discuss Revelation 12:13 or reply to why Our Lord keeps addressing Mary as the “woman.”

“Jesus does not address His mother as ‘the’ “woman”. Rather, as “woman” as he more frequently addresses more women as He does throughout His ministry.”

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OLD REGGIE,

First, I didn’t put THE in quotes, I put woman in quotes.

I have to repeat it again, you don’t have to give quotes
of where Our Lord called someone else “woman.” The OP
and the discussion is about when Our Lord addressed His
mother as “woman.”

No where in Scripture does a son call his mother “woman.”
Our Lord is teaching you, from the Old Covenant, who
the “woman” is...

Protestants reject Mary, so they object and say no.
It was the reformers (revolters) who did this, you don’t
have to. Satan did the same, it’s been revealed.


152 posted on 04/17/2012 12:46:50 PM PDT by stpio
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To: OLD REGGIE

That was shown him and more, but continues undeterred,


169 posted on 04/17/2012 9:49:24 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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