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Secularism in America: Growing American movement raises concerns
cns ^ | April 20, 2012 | Chaz Muth

Posted on 04/22/2012 10:58:08 AM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- Arianne Gasser of Canton, Ohio, is proud to call herself a graduate student at a prestigious Catholic university, and she also is proud to call herself an atheist.

The pride she has in her atheist status is part of what inspired her to travel from the Philadelphia area, where she is enrolled at Villanova University, to Washington in March to join thousands of other atheists, agnostics and other nonbelievers for the "Reason Rally," an event that was billed as an assembly to unify secular people nationwide.

Carrying a sign that reads, "This is what an atheist looks like," Gasser is part of a growing segment of Americans under the age of 30 who identify themselves as atheists or agnostics.

It's a movement that concerns Catholic leaders worldwide, including Pope Benedict XVI.

"We have morals and we have beliefs and we have these values," said Gasser, as she walked along the National Mall and marveled at how many people turned out for the rally. "People just think that we're evil, God-hating. We're just people. We just don't believe that something happens to us after we die."

A survey released in 2009 by the Pew Research Center found that a quarter of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 surveyed said they were atheists, agnostics or had no religion.

"Radical secularism" threatens the core values of American culture, the pope warned a group of U.S. bishops visiting the Vatican in January. He called on the church in the U.S., as well as politicians and other laypeople, to render "public moral witness" on crucial social issues.

"The larger concern with secularism is that it damages people, and that it actually keeps people from being reasonable with one another," said Chad C. Pecknold, assistant professor of systematic theology in the School of Theology and Religious Studies at The Catholic University of America in Washington.

"It creates a great level of intolerance for people of faith. I think secularism for Pope Benedict is a feature of this growing bifurcation between faith and reason," he told Catholic News Service.

Pecknold, who also is the author of the 2010 book "Christianity and Politics: A Brief Guide to the History," said secularism is a greater threat to humanity than to the Catholic Church because it could lead to great social unrest and fragmentation.

Vilification of Muslims in the United States following the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania can be viewed as an example of secularists' intolerance.

Richard Dawkins, vice president of the British Humanist Association and author of the 2006 book "The God Delusion," was quoted as saying religion is dangerous "because it gives people unshakeable confidence in their own righteousness. Dangerous because it gives them false courage to kill themselves, which automatically removes normal barriers to killing others."

His remarks are an illustration of hostilities toward people of faith, Pecknold said.

"These are all examples of an attempt to cause civil unrest, which I don't think are sustainable," he said. "It could actually lead to greater and greater social unrest, and could potentially give so much power to culture wars that we become an increasingly fragmented society."

The greatest threat to civil society comes from militant atheists, Pecknold told CNS.

Gasser and many of the atheists and agnostics who gathered at the "Reason Rally" said they don't see the secular movement as a threat to society. They just want people to respect their right to shun organized religion and to have their voices heard by politicians and policymakers.

They carried signs that read "Good without a God," "Proud to be an atheist," and "It's OK to be an atheist."

Others carried signs or wore shirts that had more provocative messages, such as "If you really believe prayer worked, you'd stop voting," "Freedom is the distance between church and state," and "No God, No Devil, Just Us."

Gasser said she just wants her voice to be heard with the same volume as Christians, Muslims and Jews.

"I'm not really into politics, but I do think that secular beliefs need to be treated equally with people who are believers," she told CNS. "I don't think we're recognized in the government policies and the way people cover campaigns. It's just all appealing to religious people, but there are so many of us who want to have a say in how our country is run."

The poll numbers revealing growing atheist numbers and events like the "Reason Rally" have theology scholars focusing on what they believe is driving the secularism movement.

"The cultural conditions have become more conducive to atheism. We can see that in economic ways in that we are encouraged to think of ourselves as economic individuals," Pecknold said.

"We see that in the Tea Party, a libertarian approach to economic good in which economics is something that is merely representing my own self-interests," he said. "That kind of radical individualism in economic terms or philosophical terms is itself kind of a practical atheism, in which you detach yourself from any sort of transcendent notion of the good, any sort of sense of a common good that you would participate in.

"A kind of view in which I can participate in something bigger than myself is kind of eroded from our economic practice as human beings."



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1 posted on 04/22/2012 10:58:12 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/22/2012 10:59:15 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer

Now that they’ve shoved sexual deviancy down our throats, I guess the godless bass turds think that it’s time to shove their “religion” down our throats. Wake up America!


3 posted on 04/22/2012 11:00:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the 47% to start paying their "fair share" of income taxes.)
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To: NYer
"The cultural conditions have become more conducive to atheism. We can see that in economic ways in that we are encouraged to think of ourselves as economic individuals," Pecknold said.

Pecknold is basically making a thinly-veiled attack on the Free Market and Individualism.

4 posted on 04/22/2012 11:13:31 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: NYer

Why are atheists allowed at a Catholic university?


5 posted on 04/22/2012 11:17:07 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: NYer

“...detach yourself from any sort of transcendent notion of the good...”

Detaching yourself from any transcendent notion of the good? Guarantees my complete distrust of that person. Radical self-absorption is killing this country, and this once-great civilization of the West.

Secularism does not, in the truest sense, have “beliefs.” And while it may be claimed that they have morals, at best they would be arbitrary, if present.

Dawkins is an example of one biding his time to commit evil, until he is in the majority. Since he is ‘quoted as saying religion is dangerous “because it gives people unshakeable confidence in their own righteousness.’, why does the same standard NOT apply to him, and his opinion?

Secularists fail to understand that faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, but rather, are complimentary. Those who carry the signs mentioned within the story will eventually learn the Truth they could have learned here, and not pay an eternal price for it.

Arianne Gasser’s word are painfully naive and inaccurate here: “It’s just all appealing to religious people, but there are so many of us who want to have a say in how our country is run.” Were this the case, would we really have any awareness of, say, the ACLU, or, would we likely have prayer in schools, and none of the garbage the government, and in particular, the HHS try to foist upon us?

I apologize for such a bile-ridden set of comments. I really should try not to let such things cast clouds upon the day. It’s just that I see what comes down the pike, slowly, for now, and we’re still close enough to the start to change it somewhat, but no one seems to care.


6 posted on 04/22/2012 11:18:37 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: NYer

“We have morals and we have beliefs and we have these values,” said Gasser, as she walked along the National Mall and marveled at how many people turned out for the rally. “People just think that we’re evil, God-hating. We’re just people. We just don’t believe that something happens to us after we die.”

You ARE evil, m’dear. Who goes her own way however good her intentions treads the road of Evil. That road goes only one place; to Hell. You don’t understand that she whose values are anchored in nothing has only opinions and opinions are like a rectum...everyone has one. It WAS NOT opinion that corrected America through her history, rather it was immutable right; Truth anchored in The Alpha and Omega, the Author of Time.

Back when I thought Religion was an idiotic system for old ladies, cripples and shut-ins I couldn’t have cared less what they believed or the degree to which their belief manifested itself in daily life; they were harmless and, if anything, more a help to their fellow man than otherwise. I bet YOU regard the religious as harmless too, right?

Yeah, right. I remember when gays said they only wanted to be left alone.


7 posted on 04/22/2012 11:37:07 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: James C. Bennett

James:

Individualism that goes to the extreme is not ultimately in line with Christianity. God’s very nature is relational and communion, i.e. the Holy Trinity. The Apostles and St. Paul and Barnabas were a community and were in communion with each other. Individualism, rather on the secular left or and individualist conservative approach that does not believe in doing anything for the common good are both inconsistent with orthodox Christianity.

One can believe in free markets, as I do, but also recognize the need for some legitimate forms of regulation such as those regs provided by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Banking Regs, etc.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 11:44:01 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: NYer
It would not surprise that Michelle might come up with a plan so grounded in ‘un-reality.

What Michelle and her husband, Bozo The Clown President don't realize is that ALL of what they have accomplished in life was, to a greater or lesser degree HANDED to them because of the color of their skin. Neither had to work as hard as a white would have had to do. (Add in as well that the press swallows anything they do and say however stupid, untrue or ridiculous) Thus it may be said that they have not had to read the signs as they came in life and act and react accordingly. The result being that Michell and Bozo do not quite audit what might be called reality.

They now occupy the ‘apogee’ of this trend. That growing speck on the horizon is the ‘nadir’, where all of this is headed.

9 posted on 04/22/2012 11:50:16 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: NYer

They have “morals and beliefs and values” that all come from within themselves. Now that’s heartening, you know?


10 posted on 04/22/2012 12:34:20 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: NYer

And it attacks the tea party movement. There are a lot of Christians and Catholics involved in that movement.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 1:13:55 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: icwhatudo

For the same reason that many Muslims attend Catholic universities and high schools — education.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 1:29:20 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: NYer
"...she also is proud to call herself an atheist."

Oh, Ms. Gasser, I'm sure your parents are thrilled with your atheism.

It makes me sick to think of all the sacrifices made on behalf of theses rotten kids and they thumb their noses at the morals of their upbringing.

13 posted on 04/22/2012 1:52:39 PM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: icwhatudo

The tuition check clears the bank just as quickly as any written by a believer.

That, and the Church is naive about the threat this poses to the academic freedom and spiritual milieu of the university.

I think many people think of atheists as skeptical, but nevertheless civilized and non-violent. That’s less frequently the case these days.


14 posted on 04/22/2012 5:26:22 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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