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To: Iscool
And I agree with that 100 percent...However, there is no water in THAT baptism...

Baptism does not mean water and water does not mean baptism...Look it up if you don't believe me...

Thank you for giving me another opportunity to prove you wrong and the Catholic Church correct.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baptize?s=t

bap·tize   /bæpˈtaɪz, ˈbæptaɪz/ Show Spelled [bap-tahyz, bap-tahyz] Show IPA verb, bap·tized, bap·tiz·ing. verb (used with object)

1. to immerse in water or sprinkle or pour water on in the Christian rite of baptism: They baptized the new baby.

2. to cleanse spiritually; initiate or dedicate by purifying.

3. to give a name to at baptism; christen. verb (used without object)

4. to administer baptism.

Origin: 1250–1300; Middle English < Late Latin baptizāre < Greek baptízein to immerse ( bápt ( ein ) to bathe + -izein -ize)

If you want to take it a step further it means to "Whelm" which means to fully wet.

Piece of really sound advice here, when a Catholic tells you something that you disagree with, just assume that you don't have a clue and change your opinion to match their facts.

121 posted on 04/29/2012 4:30:23 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga
Piece of really sound advice here, when a Catholic tells you something that you disagree with, just assume that you don't have a clue and change your opinion to match their facts.

Yup...Just throw the bible in the trash and believe a Catholic...LOLOL...I don't think so...

1. to immerse in water or sprinkle or pour water on in the Christian rite of baptism: They baptized the new baby.

You need to find a real dictionary...Baptize does not mean sprinkle...Baptize means 'immerse'...It doesn't mean water...

That's why John the Baptist said, 'Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

You'll notice that it doesn NOT say that Jesus baptizes with water and the Holy Ghost...

John the Baptist baptized with water, for remission of sins...Jesus baptized with the Holy Ghost, (not water) for the birth of the New Man...There is no water in the New Birth...

2. to cleanse spiritually; initiate or dedicate by purifying.

You'll also notice in your posted definition that baptism does not indicate water...It does however signify a cleansing...Not the cleansing of water but a spiritual cleansing that only the Holy Ghost can provide...

Definition of WATER 1 a : the liquid that descends from the clouds as rain, forms streams, lakes, and seas, and is a major constituent of all living matter and that when pure is an odorless, tasteless, very slightly compressible liquid oxide of hydrogen H2O which appears bluish in thick layers, freezes at 0° C and boils at 100° C, has a maximum density at 4° C and a high specific heat, is feebly ionized to hydrogen and hydroxyl ions, and is a poor conductor of electricity and a good solvent

Water does not mean baptize... A far better piece of sound advice would be for you to dump your catechism and buy a Bible and do some serious study...

126 posted on 04/29/2012 6:14:30 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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