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To: Natural Law; boatbums; daniel1212; RnMomof7
I invite you to go back and reread my posting to Metmom. I invited her factual and constructive criticisms but asked that they not be clouded with more of what is alleged to be Catholic teaching but is in fact demonstrably false.

Then your issue is with the Catholic church which taught me Catholic doctrine, with which I dared not disagree under threat of eternal damnation. Me and hundreds if not thousands of former Catholics who say the same things - people who I did NOT grow up with.

I also suggested that she forgive any sins committed by Catholics and those acting in the name of the Church.

And you know whether I have or not how?

Aren't you now working on the presumption that I haven't by your admonition to do so?

Even granting them forgiveness does not mean I'm going back. Bad behavior is one thing. Unscriptural theology and doctrine is another.

I now attend a Bible study in which all the women are former Catholics who as children and young adults grew up in completely different areas of the country with widely differing home lives, and yet our accounts of dealings with Catholicism and its teachings (when it comes up) are almost identical.

266 posted on 05/16/2012 12:41:40 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"I now attend a Bible study in which all the women are former Catholics who as children and young adults grew up in completely different areas of the country with widely differing home lives, and yet our accounts of dealings with Catholicism and its teachings (when it comes up) are almost identical."

Would you rather I attribute the gross mischaracterizations and outright lies told about the Church to more sinister motives than to poor catechesis?

On the flip side I am a catechist dealing with adult Catechumens and those returning to the Church. Most were left disappointed by their experiences with non-Catholic denominations as well. Most recount the same ignorance and lies about Catholics and the Catholic Church that I see on these threads daily. The difference appears to be that the Church has recognized the flawed catechesis that has taken place over the last 40+ years and is doing things to correct it. I asked for your constructive criticisms. I ask again.

As to the state of your forgiveness of the Catholic Church, I can only see what is said and posted about the Church and its clergy and laity. If you had truly forgiven you would have let the issue go and there would be in its place the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Its never too late.

Peace be with you.

267 posted on 05/16/2012 12:56:50 PM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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