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Cardinal Dolan: Obama's 'gay marriage' support undermines society
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| May 10, 2012
| Michelle Bauman
Posted on 05/10/2012 2:50:36 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
05/10/2012 2:50:36 PM PDT
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NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
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posted on
05/10/2012 2:51:07 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Open to scriptural suggestions.)
To: NYer
“Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan is charging President Barack Obama with undermining the very cornerstone of society by supporting gay marriage.
I’ll go on record saying I agree. Finally, a leader.
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posted on
05/10/2012 2:54:26 PM PDT
by
milford421
("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
To: NYer
Let us pray that Obama has AGAIN jumped the shark.
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posted on
05/10/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: NYer
Three thoughts:
1. Remember when Barry's Green Jobs Czar Van Jones said that Barry's black support wouldn't falter even if he comes out as gay? It's sort of interesting that some of the major network news leads were NOT saying, "President Obama announces his support of gay marriage" but "President Obama comes out in support of gay marriage," but this could just be the penchant of the media for cleverness, but to date they've been very hands-off in any sort of criticism of The One.
2. In response to an interviewer who asked Barry if Biden's remarks on the subject spurred him to change his mind, Barry stammered a bit as he is wont to do without the comforting presence of TOTUS and said that he had been supporting gay marriage since before the election--then backed up and said since before the convention. Well, if true, then all his comments to the contrary since before the convention or the election were, uh, well, lies, right? Or, rather, carefully nuanced statements consistent with his current evolutionary state on the subject in terms of securing whatever it was he felt he needed to secure at that particular moment: "Oops, seems I, uh, need a third eye, let me quickly evolve that."
3. He's off today to do a scheduled fundraiser with the organization of at least one of the letters of the LGBT "community" and another at George Clooney's place that will feature a number of pro-gay marriage and heavily-laden-with-campaign-cash guests. Could there possibly be a connection between his need to pump up his detumescing base, his less-than-amazing fundraising this time around, his publicly-declared abandonment of middle class white voters, and his latest evolutionary stage recapitulating his 1994 pro-gay marriage stance, recalling to mind Kerry's claiming to have voted for a bill before voting against it?
Is Barry really telling us how he really feels (keeping in mind the comments of his friend at Columbia who was a girl about his being very closed, having sharp edges, and manifesting deceptive warmth)? Or is he, once again, shaping his message like he shaped his memoirs, altering, compressing, conflating, and renaming, to maximally impact the largest possible donors, image-makers, and ideological soul brothers toward the ka-CHING needed to get him where he wants to be come November?
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posted on
05/10/2012 2:57:44 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: aruanan
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:06:08 PM PDT
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
To: milford421
Throughout the history of mankind, marriage has been between a man and a woman.
To: NYer
Cardinal Dolan seems to be a fine man, but I don’t think he realizes that many catholics who are Democrats-—are democrats first and catholics second , and only if Catholicism doesn’t get in their way.
I know, I have spoken to them, They will vote Obama if Obama started putting Catholics on the trains to Auschwitz.
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:10:37 PM PDT
by
Venturer
To: NYer
Obama, Ted Olson, Dick Cheney and Joe Biden all advocating gay marriage and Mitt Romney is not taking a stand against gay marriage.
We are is a societal and constitutional downward spiral.
To: NYer
never miss a photo op, Cardinal.
To: Venturer
Cardinal Dolan seems to be a fine man, but I dont think he realizes that many catholics who are Democrats-are democrats first and catholics second , and only if Catholicism doesnt get in their way.Have you listened to Cardinal Dolan? "The Church has been advocating universal healthcare for nearly a hundred years". "My father was a union man!"
To: the invisib1e hand
As for universal healthcare, that was part of the 1919 NCWC policy, but "State Controlled" Health Care was never a doctrine of the Church. "Universal" could mean "multipayer, multi-layer, private, public, Church, nonprofit, entrepreneurial, philanthropic, etc." It doesn't have to mean "government hegemony."
I'd like to have a talk with Dolan about that.
As for unions: yeesh, if you grew up in a place like St. Louis like Dolan did in the 1950's, if you were blue-collar --- all our dads were union men. That's not a brag, though it may be a tag. It's just a fact.
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:25:09 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
To: NYer
GOOD, someone with a SPINE!
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:29:45 PM PDT
by
Biggirl
("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
To: OPS4
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
To: EagleUSA
Boehner, Romney, and Rubio have all mentioned the economy is more important than same-sex marriage, and that Obama is really off-track by focusing on this issue. If all he’s going to do is tell those constituents who voted for him anyways, (a.k.a. beating a dead horse) then seriously, he’s looking terrible as a campaign politician, for one thing, his opposition isn’t Palin/McCain anymore, and he doesn’t seem to get that fact.
To: Venturer
If Cardinal Dolan and the Catholic Bishops continue to stand up to President Obama on Religious issues it will have a major negative effect on the Obama campaign.My wife and I pray each night The Bishops havr courage to stand up to Obama.
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:54:11 PM PDT
by
ardara
To: aruanan
That SOB is going to be a few blocks from me at a hotel and will destroy our traffic and cost our area tens of millions in lost business so he can pick up some campaign coin.
Can’t wait till he is gone in a few months.
Last time he passed my little 3 year old displayed his dirty finger for “THE ONE”.
There were only a few along the road and outside of security only a couple of people even waved at him.
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:55:57 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
"That's not a brag, though it may be a tag. It's just a fact." So true. A lot of people who have always lived in Right to Work states don't understand what it means to either join the union or go without a decent job.
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posted on
05/10/2012 3:58:59 PM PDT
by
Rashputin
(Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
To: NYer
In an unprecedented move, Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage From the words of Pope Leo XIII...
"Man, indeed, is free to obey his reason, to seek moral good, and to strive unswervingly after his last end. Yet he is free also to turn aside to all other things; and, in pursuing the empty semblance of good, to disturb rightful order and to fall headlong into the destruction which he has voluntarily chosen.
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posted on
05/10/2012 4:03:05 PM PDT
by
stfassisi
((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
To: NYer
For once a Catholic prelate who is not afraid of the MSM or political fallout from expressing the Church’s position on this issue.
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