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To: sitetest

“LOL! That’s even funnier, as the Catholic vote appears to have UNDERVOTED for Obama in 2012, by a little bit.”

Obama winning the Catholic vote with 50% is a great scandal. But I don’t think that is how he got elected, as we vote by state and the electoral college. The biggest swing of the Catholic vote by state I have found was in 2008, where 70% of polled Catholics in NM said they voted for Obama and 70% of Catholics in Louisiana said they voted for McCain.

According to what I have seen so far, Obama lost the Catholic vote in CT, Fla, IL, IA, MI, NH, NJ, NY, NC, OH, PA, VA and WI. The states where Obama won the Catholic vote according to what I have found are CA, ME, NV, and NM. Arizona is a wash as far as I can tell. The rest of the states I don’t think exit polled for religion, or asked questions that didn’t include Catholics. In any case I can’t find anything for Catholics with the missing states, would love to see that info.

As far as I know, Obama didn’t win the Catholic vote in any red state, but he lost the Catholic vote in many states that went blue. By the Catholic vote for the states In have found, the electoral breakdown is:

Romney 181
Obama 70

Freegards


60 posted on 12/03/2012 3:10:25 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
Dear Ransomed,

Certainly it's a great scandal. That any Catholic would vote for the Kenyan anti-Christ is a scandal.

But that wasn't the issue at hand.

Catholicism has been equated with liberalism. Or liberals. The fractured syntax of the actual statement makes it difficult to say with precision what was meant. In either case, that's false.

The charge is that Catholics are a Democrat voting bloc. In that a voting bloc is one that shows some degree of unity within the group that is allegedly voting as a bloc, the Catholic vote, almost evenly-split most years, is hardly one that constitutes a voting bloc.

There are many fruitful discussions to be had about the Catholic vote. But they must start out in truth, not falsehoods.

In that the Catholic vote IS nearly split on an overall basis, the next logical question is, how can we look at the Catholic vote in a way that gives us insight about Catholics and voting?

The answer is to look at the different stable communities within the Catholic Church in the United States. When we do that, we see that black Catholics pretty much vote Democrat, like blacks generally. Hispanic Catholics pretty much vote Democrat, like Hispanics generally. And white Catholics pretty much vote Republican, like whites generally.

Looking further, church-going Catholics pretty much vote Republican, like church-goers generally. Non-church-going Catholics pretty much vote Democrat, like non-church-goers generally.

So, what can we conclude about all this?

How about, Catholics don't vote - or generally behave - any differently from non-Catholics.

I think the scandal lies in that insight.

Voting is just one part of it.


sitetest

64 posted on 12/03/2012 3:52:57 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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