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Posted on 05/16/2012 11:39:02 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for being a Religion Moderator.

Please explain: How come swampfox101 can make things >personal & Roman Catholics are admonished by the Moderator.

Please see comment #130 by >swampfox.

This is part of the comment by >swampfox:

“Its >you, the Catholic Church and the pope that >”dispise” Christ and His word.”

How come swampfox and others can make it personal & yet Roman Catholics are the only ones admonished?

Are Roman Catholics treated differently at freepublic?

Please explain. I asked this question once before & did not receive an adequate answer?

Does the Moderator >choose sides when an attack is being made on Catholics & the Catholic Church?

Please answer & be specific to the attacks by swampfox101 against Catholics. There are numerous personal attacks.


141 posted on 05/20/2012 8:59:56 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for being a Moderator.

Another question:

Does the Moderator read >all comments? Or, does the Moderator just respond to complaints?

I believe Swampfox was being asked to >explain his views & he has been avoiding that as he is constantly >hating on Catholics & the Catholic Church.

I do not think swampfox is actually a Christian in the commonly understood use of the word. My opinion is swampfox has the religion of >hate, particularly for catholics & the Catholic Church.

1. How does the Moderator respond to comments in a thread? There are numerous >personal attacks by swampfox that received no >public scolding.


142 posted on 05/20/2012 9:22:36 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd
"Are Roman Catholics treated differently at freepublic?"

Yes, Catholics are treated differently on FreeRepublic than non-Catholics because we are different. For non-Catholics religion is a matter of personal choice and the denomination one belongs to is but one of many organizations that they can join or quit at any time.

We Catholics are different. Catholic is not what we are, it is who we are. The Church founded by Jesus is an organic being in and of itself and each member is but a part of the whole. Do not expect non-Catholic to understand, appreciate, or respect this regardless of their Christian intentions or professed balance and impartiality. The world hates us because it hated Him. Wear it proudly, but do not hate in return.

Peace be with you.

143 posted on 05/20/2012 9:32:20 AM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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To: gghd
Moderators review and, if appropriate, respond to complaints. We also read reply posts and articles and intervene when necessary to prevent flame wars, copyright abuse, etc.

On the Religion Forum, when one poster is warned all other posters in the sidebar should consider themselves warned. This is based on the principle that two wrongs do not make a right.

Click here for more information on the Religion Forum guidelines.

144 posted on 05/20/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for your reply. & Thank you for being a Moderator.

I’ve looked at the guidelines before, and it didn’t answer basic questions I asked.

1. Are Roman Catholics judged by a different standard than other people on freerepublic by the >Religion Moderator?

2. Do Religion Moderator choose sides when someone attacks the Catholic Church?

3. Why was swampfox101 allowed to make personal attacks? Was my observation more dire than his attacks?

4. Thank you for telling me that the Religion Moderator responds to >complaints.

My observation: Swampfox101 was enjoying throwing hateful-rocks at >me, other Catholics & the Catholic Church. But, he was unwilling in a deceitful manner to explain his ‘religion’ & his faith formation.

There are a lot of evil-crybabies in the world.

Deceitful people do not want to answer these questions:

1. Do you believe in Predestination?
2. Are you ‘Born Again’ & baptized by the Holy Spirit?
3. Is there an >actual real church we can see with our own >eyes that teaches the >Truth from Jesus Christ? Or, are you the ‘pope of your own armchair church?’
4. Are your religious views formed by a preacher on the >radio.

There is an >infamously >wrong radio-preacher by the name of Harold Camping on Family Radio Stations. Swampfox101 sounds a lot like ‘Harold, the world is going to end >twice now!!! so it’s time to >>>>send me your money—, Camping.’


145 posted on 05/20/2012 10:27:50 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Natural Law

Thank you for your >EXCELLENT Catholic advice.


146 posted on 05/20/2012 10:38:36 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd

Who’s crying..........?


147 posted on 05/20/2012 10:43:54 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: gghd

Tough time defending huh?


148 posted on 05/20/2012 10:45:29 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Natural Law

“Peace be with you”

And you my friend.


149 posted on 05/20/2012 10:46:53 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: gghd
1. No

2. No

3. "Personal attacks" are not allowed anywhere on Free Republic. Calling another poster names and accusing him of serious misconduct are forms of "personal attacks."

"Making it personal" is not allowed on the Religion Forum. Accusing another Freeper of telling a lie, attributing motives to him, reading his mind, badgering him with the same questions over/again, following him around and making the thread "about" him are all forms of "making it personal."

You have been doing such things on this thread.

When I notice a poster "making it personal" - I warn him. I do not look to see if it was provoked because two wrongs do not make a right.

Under the RF guidelines, other posters involved in this sidebar should consider themselves warned since you have been warned.

Finally, "open" Religion Forum threads are like a town square. Posters may argue for and against dieties, beliefs, religious authorities and so on. They may ridicule such things. They are often contentious.

If you are offended by that style of debate then IGNORE "open" Religion Forum threds altogether - do not read them nor post to them. Instead post to RF threads labeled "devotion" "prayer" "ecumenical" or "caucus."

Thick skin is required on "open" RF threads.

150 posted on 05/20/2012 11:02:51 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for being a Religion Moderator.

Why was swampfox allowed to say, “It’s >You, the Catholic Church and the pope that >”dispise” Christ & His word?”
Yet, I was warned for saying, “you don’t understand it.”

There seems to be >a great difference in the two comments.
Your answer does not explain it.

As to choosing sides:
Please see swampfox comments #147 & 148.
Religion Moderator, >I believe you choose sides when Roman Catholics are defending their Church.

Please review: comment #130 again.

In fact, I would ask you to go back and re-read all of swampfox’s comments. I see them as >personal attacks.

Do you the Religion Moderator see swampfox’s comments as expressing the love for Jesus Christ?

Religion Moderator, if you have read all of swampfox’s comments = you’d realize ALL my comments are about his ‘armchair church.’ Swampfox is presenting himself as the >only member of his church. Swampfox is presenting himself as ‘the pope of his armchair church.’

I keep asking ‘the pope of swampfox’s armchair church’ to explain his religious beliefs & his faith formation. I’m very curious how swampfox became ‘pope of his armchair church.’ I consider it to be a legitimate question.

I also, think people that claim ‘Christianity’ as their religion should NOT NOT be deceitful as to their >religious beliefs & their faith formation.

Religion Moderator: Why can swampfox >attack the Pope of the Catholic Church but we are >admonished for asking questions of the ‘pope of swampfox armchair church?’

Also, just looking at comments #147 & #148, it appears as the though the ‘pope of swampfox’s armchair church,’ thinks you have sided with him.


151 posted on 05/20/2012 11:37:31 AM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Religion Moderator

I too thank you.

Have a great day.


152 posted on 05/20/2012 12:11:11 PM PDT by swampfox101
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To: gghd; swampfox101
Why was swampfox allowed to say, “It’s >You, the Catholic Church and the pope that >”dispise” Christ & His word?”
Yet, I was warned for saying, “you don’t understand it.”

The guideline on the Religion Forum to not "make it personal" applies to other Freepers, personally - not to Popes, Churches, Dieties, etc.

Swampfox101, on post 130 you were reading gghd's mind and therefore "making it personal" when you said:

Its you ... that dispise Christ and His word

Both of you, "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal."
153 posted on 05/20/2012 9:09:20 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for your reply.

As I understand your reply:

1. I’m allowed to criticize ‘the pope of swampfox’s armchair church.’

2. I’m allowed to say ‘pope-swampfox’s armchair church teaches false doctrine.’

3. I’m allowed to say, ‘the pope of swampfox’s armchair church sounds similar to ‘Harold Camping of end of the world fame.’

+ I have >specifically heard Harold Camping on his Radio Programs make specific anti-Catholic statements. & Harold Camping has professed a Predestination view of Salvation with a very limited number of people entering Heaven.
As you must have read comment #130 by now, pope-swampfox thinks only 6-8 million people are part of the ‘Lord’s Church.’
That is an amazing >exclusionary number out of 7 Billion people on earth.
As an observation, that number sounds more like a >cult-religion. Cults are discussed on freerepublic. = Please, don’t consider it a ‘personal statement’ directed to someone. Please consider it simply a descriptive term found on freerepublic.

4. When people deny membership in >any visible church, the only option left is to refer to them as ‘their name & armchair church.’ ‘Or as pope-name.’

5. Pope-swampfox was posting as the authority on scripture. That’s why I referred to him as ‘pope of scriptures’ & ‘pope of his armchair church.’

Religion Moderator, I did NOT NOT see in the guidelines where ‘asking a question over & over was considered
badgering.’ I thought it was extremely deceitful for pope-swampfox to deny any >visible church & then complain when we asked him (as pope of his own church) about his views.

I repeatedly ask deceitful pope-swampfox to explain where he learned his view of the scriptures. The fact he was so evasive about radio-preachers led me to ask the question 3 times.

Also, as a general question:
‘Are Religion Moderators members of a church or Religion that is hostile to the Roman Catholic Church.’
In my opinion based on two admonishments & viewing numerous comments by people that >hate the Catholic Church, there is a definite animosity towards the Catholic Church by at least one if not more Religion Moderators.

For the record: I was arguing with pope-swampfox as though he was a >pope of sorts. = The pope of his peewee armchair church & pope of the scriptures.

In the Roman Catholic Church, the title pope is one of honor. I do believe that pope-swampfox should be honored when Catholics refer to him as pope!!!

Thank you for your time. It’s a difficult job trying to be a Religion Moderator on a Roman Catholic thread where >hate-mongers are allowed to post insults against Catholics & the Catholic Church with impunity.


154 posted on 05/20/2012 9:53:12 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: gghd
Repeating the other poster's screen name repeatedly in the title you've given him is making the thread "about" him. It is "making it personal."

It is enough to state once that you believe that he is his own Pope and thereafter use a title that would apply to any person so situation, e.g. "self-Pope". That would not be "making it personal."

Religion Moderators do not reveal their own religious memberships.

If you are offended when posters insult your Church, beliefs, religious authorities and so on then you should IGNORE "open" Religion Forum threads altogether. They are in a town square format, thick-skin is required.

155 posted on 05/20/2012 10:06:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

Thank you for your reply:

As I understand your reply. I can refer to members of the swampfox armchair church as that is the only possible way to identify swampfox-armchair-church from the other ‘self-churches’ in the world.

Example: Many Churches in the world use a modifier to distinguish their church from other churches with the same name = Baptist, free-will Baptist, Southern Baptist.

Self-pope can be numerous people. & I do not see in freerepublic guidelines where using a person’s name is prohibited = especially when that person is addressed with an honorable title of pope.

I do believe, freerepublic should encourage clarity of thought as one of its goals. Self-pope in a series of comments does not lead to ‘clarity’ when addressing a particular church such as swampfox’s ‘self-pope armchair church.’

The Religion Moderator has mentioned to >me specifically about being offended with insults to my Church.
To set the record straight: I would like the >same latitude to address the pope-name people of other churches.

As I have said before: There seems to be an animosity towards the Catholic Church & >Catholics which allows >hate mongers to hate >Catholics with impunity.

I also suspect that >swampfox was the true >crybaby in this discussion about >pope-swampfox’s armchair church. Pope-swampfox was not here to discuss any religion dispute. I personally thought pope-swampfox was here to >hate.

The standards the Religion Moderator has set in this thread are NOT completely set out in the guidelines. Do the Religion Moderators have a >separate guideline sheet or do the Religion Moderators ‘make things up’ as they go along with specific general items set by the guidelines.

I ask because there does seem to be a general tolerance for hate mongering against >Catholics with supposedly >prohibited pronouns. BUT, when a Catholic uses the same pronoun against a hate-monger, the moderator steps in to the thread.

Please compared post #130 with the comment I was admonished about.


156 posted on 05/20/2012 10:41:29 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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Please refer to post #147 & #148. I personally interpreted those two posts as a >gloating comments as though >swampfox considered the Religion Moderator to be choosing his side in a dispute against a >Catholic.

The comment ‘who’s crying...’ leads me to think >swampfox was the crybaby in this dispute.

+ Rather than a long comment where I use swampfox’s name, it appears I can make short ‘snarky’ comments based on your guidelines & what is permitted to >Catholic haters.

For instance:
I could simple address the comment to >swampfox & then in the body of the comment say,
Self pope of a church that despises Jesus.

Since swampfox was allowed to post such a comment without admonishment in #130, let me demonstrate it for you.


157 posted on 05/20/2012 10:52:17 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: swampfox101

Self-pope of an armchair church that despises Jesus.


158 posted on 05/20/2012 10:53:48 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: Religion Moderator; swampfox101; Salvation; Natural Law; Cronos

What is the Religion Moderator’s opinion of post #158?

Are >Catholics able to post comments in the same manner as Catholic-haters?


159 posted on 05/20/2012 10:57:23 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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Religion Moderator, you have permission to look at >all my comments on freerepublic.

I don’t typically address comments such as is found in #158.

I don’t know with certainty swampfox’s opinion of Jesus Christ. It’s for God to look into swampfox’s heart.

The comment was >not offered to offend >But to make a needed point.

In Catholic Church & much of Christianity = The Church is considered the Body of Jesus Christ. & To insult the Church is to insult Jesus Christ.


160 posted on 05/20/2012 11:06:26 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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