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To: Natural Law; ansel12; metmom; boatbums; caww; smvoice; presently no screen name

You can only get away with these errant presentations in an opinion forum. In any scientific environment these logical fallacies would never stand up to peer or competitive review and analysis. The premise that Catholics are somehow responsible for the current administration is a joke. You need to be clear before making a conclusion

Despite your misapprehension on what my argument was, the obvious conclusion is that Catholics are more liberal and vote more democratic than evangelicals, and still favor Obama more than they, which was my argument, and thus the focus of my verifiable stats from sources engaged in professional analysis, not that Catholics alone are responsible for the current administration, which was not my premise (though with 54% voting for Obama, and only 45% voting for the alternative, then they and Protestants share the bulk of responsibility, no matter how many stood by and did neither).

Thus my post in response to voting began, "The comparison is btwn evangelicals and RC, as percentages." and (to you) “How many Catholics voted is not the pertinent stat, but the percentage and the type of Christian group at issue.”

Meanwhile, it is who provide referenced substantiation for my argument from sources engaged in professional analysis, and while i do not necessarily dispute it, nor again was Protestant versus Catholic my focus, i am still waiting (beside for your apology for past false charges) for the link that explains how Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote and Mcain received 45%, but Obama only received a little more than 33% of the “actual Catholic vote” with an equal number of Catholics voting for “none of the above,” and how that compares with the “actual Protestant vote,” which would be interesting.

217 posted on 05/21/2012 5:03:42 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: daniel1212; ansel12; metmom; boatbums; caww; smvoice; presently no screen name; Salvation
"Despite your misapprehension on what my argument was...

I understand your argument probably better than you do. I've seen it attempted to be made by far better scholars; four legs good, two legs bad. Fallacious conclusions based upon poorly acquired polling information collected by agenda driven organizations and subsequently argued by an individual with a long record of anti-Catholic activities is cause for apprehension and distrust.

The facts are clear that Obama got only two million more "Catholic" votes than McCain, with most of those coming from Catholics who do not attend Mass regularly or are otherwise in Communion with the Church. When you use the numbers for Catholics who regularly attend Mass you find the numbers tell a completely different story. So, if you are so adamant about counting lapsed and failed Catholics among the vote totals, why don't you count the votes of all of those former Catholics who have become Protestant and Evangelical in the totals as well, or would that diminish from the hateful message you are pushing. While you are at it why don't you disclose your specific denomination for us so that we can verify among other things the comparative conservative voting records and the history of child abuse.

"A new commandment I give unto you: That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another." - John 13: 34-35

220 posted on 05/21/2012 8:45:25 AM PDT by Natural Law ("AMOR VINCIT OMNIA")
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