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Female iman training in Germany
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 31 May 2012 | Cathcon

Posted on 05/31/2012 2:32:47 PM PDT by Gillibrand

Hilal Sandikci preaches Islam, because she is looking for answers. She cannot stand open questions. Since Secondary School in Herten near Recklinghausen, the 23-year-old has been occupied with the Koran, which offers plenty of room for interpretation, and the religion that is so complex. Meanwhile, it has become a profession.

Hilal Sandikci was trained as a female Iman in a Turkish Cultural Centre. Since then, she teaches the Muslim faith to Turkish people. Because she wanted to preach Islam, but also in German, in parallel with her A-levels, she took the training for Imans.

"I've learned a lot from the training for imams," she says. "I have been given structures of how I respond and react to situations." They also can call on the instructor at any time and ask how what verse is to be interpreted. For Sandikci, the program is just a further step. As a further step, in autumn she will be one of the first students to study Islamic theology in Osnabrück. This is her dream.

(Excerpt) Read more at cathcon.blogspot.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: germany; islam; muslim

1 posted on 05/31/2012 2:32:53 PM PDT by Gillibrand
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To: Gillibrand

Is an “iman” anything like an Imam?


2 posted on 05/31/2012 2:34:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Gillibrand

Fatwa and death sentence in 5-4-3-2....


3 posted on 05/31/2012 2:48:52 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: humblegunner
She talked to a student adviser about Gelsenkirchen, who then advised her about the program that educates the imams through the medium of German. In Osnabrück, she found "support for arguments, which can show to the Germans that we are not like that",

No. They're not all "like that." The only ones that are like that are the ones that make and enforce the freaking laws in every Muslim majority country in the world. And a goodly percentage of the general populations in those countries.

BTW, just asking: If a woman presents herself as an Imam in any Muslim country, do they leave her be, or stone her for blasphemy? (I really don't know the answer, as I've never heard of a female Imam.)

Of course, I don't know everything. I don't speak Arabic, and I was not able to get through the whole Koran in English. (And I'm sure as hell not about to invest the time learning to read it in Arabic just to find out whether all Muslims are psycho killers or only some are).

Personally, though, I find that the more I have learned about Islam since 9-11, the more completely disgusting it appears. But I'm certainly open to hearing any honest, rational argument to the contrary.

If I were rich, I would offer a $100k reward to any Muslim who could make such an argument. I'm sure I'd have to pay the reward at some point, like maybe right after Breitbart pays out the $100k to whoever can produce evidence that Tea Partiers spit at members of Congress.

4 posted on 05/31/2012 2:51:13 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: humblegunner

I only know of two “Iman”s: One is a pretty damn hot model, the other is a wrinkly old SOB in a cowboy hat. I still listen to him on the old a.m. radio every morning tho’


5 posted on 05/31/2012 3:32:17 PM PDT by enraged
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To: Gillibrand
How much room for interpretation are these statements from the Koran:
-women should be beaten regularly
-a woman is a field for her man (i.e, women are property)
-a marriage can be invalidated by a man saying “I divorce you” three times
-most women go to hell

Not to mention the commonness of honor killings, female stonings for trivial offenses, female genital mutilation (almost universal among African muslims), and the seldom-mentioned the high prevalence of rape of women and children.

6 posted on 05/31/2012 3:36:59 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Gillibrand

Oh this is a good idea......./sarc Going to end badly


7 posted on 05/31/2012 3:40:31 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Ronin
Fatwa and death sentence in 5-4-3-2....

Exactly.She'd be wise to steer clear of...Saudi,Iran,Pakistan,Yemen,Egypt,Sudan,India....

8 posted on 05/31/2012 3:41:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Maceman

Women can be “Imana”, prayer leaders for women. But women are not allowed to have religious superiority or legal authority over men.
She can be the equivalent of a Sunday School teacher or women’s prayer leader, but cannot issue fatwas or tell the men what to do.


9 posted on 05/31/2012 3:49:13 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Gillibrand

Does this make her an Ima’am?


10 posted on 05/31/2012 4:08:05 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Gillibrand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith

They tried in the late 1800’s to reform Islam to be more Female friendly...

[The laws of the Bahá’í Faith primarily come from the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, written by Bahá’u’lláh.[73] The following are a few examples of basic laws and religious observances.

Prayer in the Bahá’í Faith consists of obligatory prayer and devotional (general) prayer. Bahá’ís over the age of 15 must individually recite an obligatory prayer each day, using fixed words and form. In addition to the daily obligatory prayer, believers are directed to daily offer devotional prayer and to meditate and study sacred scripture. There is no set form for devotions and meditations, though the devotional prayers written by the central figures of the Bahá’í Faith and collected in prayer books are held in high esteem. Reading aloud of prayers from prayer books is a typical feature of Bahá’í gatherings.
Backbiting and gossip are prohibited and denounced.
Adult Bahá’ís in good health should observe a nineteen-day sunrise-to-sunset fast each year from March 2 through March 20.
Bahá’ís are forbidden to drink alcohol or to take drugs, unless prescribed by doctors.
Sexual intercourse is only permitted between a husband and wife, and thus premarital, extramarital and homosexual intercourse are forbidden. (See also Homosexuality and the Bahá’í Faith)
Gambling is forbidden.
Fanaticism is forbidden.
Adherence to ritual is discouraged, with the notable exception of the obligatory prayers.
Abstaining from partisan politics is required.]

Social principles
[Equality between men and women]

[As the Báb’s teachings spread, which the Islamic clergy saw as a threat, his followers came under increased persecution and torture.[12] The conflicts escalated in several places to military sieges by the Shah’s army. The Báb himself was imprisoned and eventually executed in 1850.]

Hmm, equality of women and no Fanaticism ... no wonder they killed him....


11 posted on 05/31/2012 5:09:40 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: humblegunner; Gillibrand
Female "Iman" training

if they're going to make more Somali women like iman, this is good news!!


12 posted on 06/01/2012 4:55:26 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Maceman
But I'm certainly open to hearing any honest, rational argument to the contrary.

There isn't any. I've read the Koran (in english) and the Hadiths and they are incoherent ramblings. The Mein K has more sense (and the MK is utter rot, madman's writings).

13 posted on 06/01/2012 4:57:17 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Gay State Conservative

not in India — it’s a majority Hindu state (80%)


14 posted on 06/01/2012 4:58:11 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: GraceG; Gillibrand
Bahai'ism is not Islam. the Bab and Bahai claim to have superseeded Islam. Islam claims Mo was the last prophet, so B's assertion negates Islam.

For that matter, Bahai'ism is syncretic and equally as daft as islam, but not bloodthirsty.

15 posted on 06/01/2012 4:59:54 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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