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To: RFEngineer; papertyger
"Death is not a sacrament. Marriage is. Unless of course it was a Catholic non-marriage type of marriage to be determined at some future unspecified time."

Do you think a marriage between a man and a seven year old girl is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

Do you think that a marriage against the will of either party is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

Do you think the marriage involving a seriously mentally disabled or unconscious person is invalid or should the Church nullify it?

Do you think that the marriage to someone who is already married to one or more other persons is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

These are just a few of the more obvious grounds on which the Church determines that the marriage was never a valid marriage. Can you at least agree that there are some legitimate reasons to annul a marriage?

Peace be with you

197 posted on 06/05/2012 7:05:18 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

Of course you ignore the fact that the vast majority of annulments are really divorces by another name.

You argue the exception to justify the majority.

Catholic annulments are no different than protestant divorces for most cases.

You feel smug that they are called something else, and that’s fine.

There is no real difference for the vast majority of non-kennedy, non-gingrich annulments.


203 posted on 06/05/2012 7:18:30 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Natural Law; RFEngineer
Do you think a marriage between a man and a seven year old girl is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

And just what is any priest in his right mind doing marrying a seven year old child?

No, it's not valid in any respect.

It is no excuse for an annulment because there was no marriage, it's child rape and needs to be prosecuted as the crime it is.

Do you think that a marriage against the will of either party is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

Does not the couple go to pre-cana and should not the priest have determined that BEFORE marrying them? And in this day and age? Marrying against one's will?

We are past the days of arranged marriages but I simply cannot believe that all arranged marriages were entered into by willing partners and yet those marriages were considered valid and binding. Didn't amtter what the man and woman thought.

And where does God allow an exception for that anyway? Would you care to provide some Scripture to support that?

Do you think the marriage involving a seriously mentally disabled or unconscious person is invalid or should the Church nullify it?

See response to marrying a child. Do you mean to seriously assert that one of your priests is going to marry someone who is unconscious for the wedding? Really?

Or that the priest can't determine that someone is mentally deficient to the point that they ought not to marry?

So what business does he have marrying them in the first place?

Do you think that the marriage to someone who is already married to one or more other persons is a valid marriage or should the Church nullify it?

Bigamy is also a crime and the marriage is already not recognized by civil authorities. It doesn't take an annulment to admit that.


218 posted on 06/05/2012 8:11:55 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law

Can your relgion annul a marriage when there has not been a divorce decreed???


234 posted on 06/06/2012 5:59:55 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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