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To: DannyTN

If they vote Democrat, they are NOT Christian, if they support a liberal Supreme Court, they are Not Christian, that`s basically what I am saying.

Do they believe that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life, and that NO man cometh unto the Father but through Him.

Do they believe that Jesus is the ONLY way to God, and that homosexuality is a abomination, and that abortion is the murder of God`s children, and to vote Democrat in any way shape or form, is to be part of the crime.

That`s how I see it, do they cringe at the term BORN AGAIN, do they speak of the Christian right as morons and hateful?

That`s what I am talking about.


145 posted on 06/13/2012 1:37:32 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Friendofgeorge
You are confusing Christianity with politics. And you are also defining Christianity along a very narrow set of beliefs and actions that are not a valid test of Christianity.

The right test of Christianity is if they agree on the nature of God and the nature of Salvation. Christians can hold all manner of heritical and anti-scriptural ideas but still be Christian, and still be saved by their faith in Jesus.

Christians don't come to full maturity as soon as the accept Jesus. The fruit of the Spirit takes time to develop and ripen. So do the virtues of Godly wisdom.

I could make the same argument you are making against Christians who vote Democratic by pointing out that the Republicans are nominating a man who isn't a Christian and whose actions supported abortions and gay marriage. Are people not Christians if they vote Republican now? It's not a valid test.

Besides major denominations don't vote. And you said most mainline denominations aren't Christian.

if I understand your logic, you are judging entire denominations by the assumption that since America elected a democrat President, that the major denominations that the electorate belong too, must be non-Christian.

There is good and bad in both parties. The issues of abortion and gay marriage are a semi-litmus test for me that pushes me to the Republicans. But right now the two candidates are so close and so anti-what I believe in, that I'm not likely to vote for either. Party adherence is a horrible way to judge people's Christianity.

So too, the term Born Again means different things to different people. Different denominations are like different churches, they each have their own personalities, just like the 7 churches of revelations. Some have serious faults, some have heresies, some are luke warm, probably none are without fault.

Don't judge people's salvation by such a narrow and inappropriate litmus test. The litmus test should be the gospel, not their adherence to a political party, not even their stand on the major social issues of the day, though I agree the scriptures are clear on what their stand should be. But I can see a saved person who isn't that familiar with the scriptures being confused by manipulative arguments. That won't affect their salvation.

Don't add to the salvation message by saying you must accept Jesus, but you must also be against abortion and be against the democrats because they are for abortion. Unfortunately it appears the Republicans are too based on their candidate's past actions.

There are serious flaws in some of the logical leaps you are making.


151 posted on 06/13/2012 2:25:08 PM PDT by DannyTN
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