Posted on 06/22/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
Of course there could be an event not seen in recent memory or an October surprise, but I doubt that you would be willing to make any meaningful wager that the candidates will someone other than Obama and Romney.
Of course there could be an event not seen in recent memory or an October surprise, but I doubt that you would be willing to make any meaningful wager that the candidates will someone other than Obama and Romney.
After the convention has nothing to do with an October surprise, candidates will emerge from there and at this point we can only speculate who they will be.
The conventions as far I know are in August not October.
Care to make a meaningful wager?
No, I do not wager, bet, play the horses or slots, lotto, or whatever - I don’t gamble.
You stated the other poster was abusing Christ (shaming the “Gospel of Salvation”) by attacking Mormonism and the proven pathological liar known as Mitt Romney. How exactly is that so?
When someone leaps to questioning your Christianity because you do not sign on to attacking the adherents of the ISM, THAT is abusing the Gospel of Grace, using the Salvation in Christ as a tool to try and squelch the person. And you know that else you would not be now trying to twist that into something else.
If Mitt Romney is indeed a liar, and if Mormonism is indeed a cult (and it is), exactly how would Christ be offended by posts that speak both those truths? And certainly those posters are no apologists for other liars like Obama. So how exactly are they shaming Christ, as you irrationally suggest?
You have twisted what I was addressing completely around, to try and mischaracterize so you can fit your accusation into the preset mold of your agenda. Very alinskeyesque.
Milt is a liar. MormonISM is not Christianity. However, that is not what I was addressing, despite the hurrahs of your mischaracterization being 'brilliant'. You have purposely mischaracterized what I posted. And just so there is no pretend misunderstanding, you nor I can shame Christ, but folkks seem to think they are at liberty to try and use The Gospel of Grace as a tool for political attacks. If someone uses His Gospel as a bludgeon to try and shut up others who are speaking out regarding the misuse of the religion forum by trying to turn it into a political attack venue, THAT is what I was addressing.
As you are a n00b, I will just have a chuckle at your confused query of am I a Mormon.
If you ignore the question a second time, I’ll know your true reasoning isn’t religious over a worry for Christ, but are purely political.
I do not worry over Christ. I am offended by someone trying to use His Grace as if it can be welded like a political ramrod to shut someone up. How very alinskyesque to try and turn my disagreement with what I address as the problem with the way the forum is being misused, into an accusation of same against my posting. And you are not one to demand I respond to your purposed mischaracterizations or else you will know this or that, n00b. YOU are using the religion forum to make political hay. Why will eventually come out, it always does when a n00b pretends to be something they really are not. we shall wait and see with you.
“When someone leaps to questioning your Christianity because you do not sign on to attacking the adherents of the ISM, THAT is abusing the Gospel of Grace, using the Salvation in Christ as a tool to try and squelch the person. And you know that else you would not be now trying to twist that into something else.”
Considering my reply to you did not insult you, but merely challenged you, and the first thing you did was denigrate me (”nOOb”) in response, and allege that you could not make sense of my simple question (acting as if I was stupid), maybe you need to take a step back and examine your own motivations.
And all of it is in your head. You’re the one accusing people of using “religion” as a political attack. You are telling everyone that people who oppose Mormonism, and realize that it is going to be a big issue throughout the election since Mitt Romney is the nominee, are doing so only for political purposes. In reality, you are the one reacting politically to things that you admit you already agree with anyway.
Exactly how does anyone on this forum benefit politically when, presumably, most are Republican or are Conservative? (There’s a difference.) What candidate do you think they are promoting? It’s not Obama. Do you think they believe they are going to get in some other candidate, maybe Sarah Palin, by making these threads? Of course not. So what is the motivation?
The motivation is the outrage that ungodly men are leading the nation, Mitt Romney included, and Mormonism is going to be apologized for (and already is) despite being the cult that it is.
Consider it education and an expression of that frustration, which I agree with and share completely.
You Mittbots started it, and so I will finish it. If you can read my mind, certainly I should be allowed to read yours!
Neither do I, except hypothetically to assess another's confidence in their predictions in terms of odds and probabilities.
LC, you aren't given a vote for Savior in the American elections. That vote has to come individually and strickly between you and Jesus Christ. Trying to use that truth to play political slap down is, well, obscene. This incessant assertion that voting for a non-perfect man (a man caught up in a cult) is accounted by God as condemantion of me or anyone else voting to remove Obama by electing Romney is using The Gospel as a political tool. Shame on those who are doing this!
It has become quite evident that the lengthy posts exposing MormonISM have been made not for purposes of trying to awaken Mormons but to defeat Mitt Romney in the primaries and now in the race for president. If the mainstream media do this, would you endorse that? A few short years ago you wouldn't have.
If you think long and hard about that, you might figure out there is a ‘bigotry’ wager running with such misuse of the Gospel of Salvation. I hope you DO think about it, long and hard, because this is getting disgusting to watch as people are manipulated to trash Mormons when it was claimed by the Inmans that we were exposing MormonISM to help Mormons awaken to the blasphemies in their religious system.
It appears your memory is failing, along with your discernment. The Flying Inmans were NEVER organized for the purpose of "exposing MormonISM to help Mormons awaken to the blasphemies in their religious system" but to combat the incessant proselytization on FR of mormon dogma.
Get your facts straight, since it appears your mind has been captured by the force of darkness.
Perhaps you believe that viciously attacking former allies will bring you popularity with the ABOs. Go for it. Just don't expect the ones attacked to sit back and take your venomous slander lying down.
Ah yes, you are such the one to accuse someone of ‘vicious attacks’. But of course you are free to make it personal as you see fit.
I believe that you should reread your post 107 before you accuse someone else of “making it personal”.
And the queen must be obeyed, right?
;-)
Excellent post!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
bttt
Nothing at all - I support Conservatism against liberalism/socialism/globalism/communism - So naturally, I am directly opposed to Obama... and all others like him, to include the Republican version: Romney.
What are you doing to support Conservatism?
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