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To: libdestroyer

we can disagree on whether one can or can’t resist, however John 15 clearly is about God saying they chose someone before time, not about God saying “you have no other choice”. You can argue that as a case of pre-election, but not for irresistible grace.


59 posted on 06/27/2012 6:49:34 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
we can disagree on whether one can or can’t resist, however John 15 clearly is about God saying they chose someone before time, not about God saying “you have no other choice”. You can argue that as a case of pre-election, but not for irresistible grace.
Who resists God? Furthermore we are dead in our sins. What choice does a dead man have?
61 posted on 06/27/2012 10:26:02 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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