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To: stpio; daniel1212
Oh daniel, reply to Revelation 14:13. Sola Fide is a lie. No one here has answered.

No, works for salvation is the lie. We are saved by the grace of God THROUGH faith and NOT of works. You have been answered many times but no one can make you understand this truth. As to Revelation 14:13 saying our works are what saves us is purely and simply a FALSE reading of scripture. If these "prophets" are telling you this, they are preaching a false gospel and we know in the end-times there WILL be such false prophets. You would do well to shun them and not try to help spread their false gospel. You should notice that in verse 13 it says:

"and their works do follow them"

They do not go before them, to prepare heaven and happiness for them; nor do they take them along with them, and use them as pleas for their admission into the heavenly glory; but they will follow them, and will be found to praise, and honour, and glory, and will be taken notice of by Christ, and graciously rewarded by him, at his appearing and kingdom. (http://gill.biblecommenter.com/revelation/14.htm)

Scripture does not contradict itself because it ALL comes from the Holy Spirit, it is God-breathed. You are reading INTO the verse something it does not say. Now you can stop saying "no one here has answered" you.

174 posted on 07/11/2012 7:44:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

“and their works do follow them”

THEY do not go before them, to prepare heaven and happiness for them; nor do they take THEM along with them, and use THEM as pleas for their admission into the heavenly glory; but they will follow them, and will be found to praise, and honour, and glory, and will be taken notice of by Christ, and graciously rewarded by him, at his appearing and kingdom. (http://gill.biblecommenter.com/revelation/14.htm)

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Hi boatbums, it’s your response to Rev 14:13 not Daniel,
thanks.

Good Lord, using the reverse. Who said anything about “before”, the verse doesn’t say “before”, it says “follow”, as in the results of....

Who is “THEY” and “THEM” in the excuse to reject faith and works? Does the bible commentator mean “they” are works, we don’t take “them” to Heaven? Wrongo, we don’t get into Heaven without them, God’s grace, faith and our good works.

Protestants will not let go of “faith alone.” They know
it’s source, Luther and still believe it!

Here, once again, Our Lord explains it simply to Protestants. He’s teaching you, preparing you to accept
the faith and hoping you will let go of the heresies.
After the Great Warning, no more Protestantism or schisms.

Jesus speaks of three heresies in one paragraph.

1. faith alone

2. the altar call, accepting Jesus into your heart one time
as your personal Lord and Savior justifies you

3. prosperity gospel (most, not all non-Catholic Christians are understanding this is a lie and reject it)

April 1, 2012

message to Kevin Barrett

...But not all that call themselves by My name shall take part as My bride. Only those that overcome shall be allowed to sit with Me on My throne to rule the nations with a rod of iron.

Oh hear Me, My people. Why do you listen to the hirelings and false teachers and prophets? Did I not say in My word that not all that say to me ‘Lord’ ‘Lord’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, save those that do the will of the Father who is in heaven? Then why do you still go about doing your own will and tell yourselves that you are My bride? My people, you have been lied to by the enemy of your soul. Seek Me in these things. Surely I will reveal My truth to you. I love you, My dear children, and it is My desire that each of you share My throne with Me. But unfortunately only a remnant shall overcome. For too many have listened to the lies told by the false shepherds and prophets. They speak of how you each are already cleansed and adorned in righteousness simply by your belief on My name. These are all lies, My people. For does not My word say that he who DOES righteousness is righteous? Yes, My people, you are made righteous by your faith in Me, but it is fulfilled by your obedience to My voice. It IS NOT imputed to you by a one-time confession of My name. Oh, My people, you have been lied to. Read My word for yourselves.

Why listen to those that fatten themselves by fleecing My sheep? I have not sent many of the shepherds that are out there. They have sent themselves for their own glory and their own profit. Oh, My people, did I not say in My word to judge them by their fruit? Then where is the fruit, My people? Oh, but those that have itching ears care not about the fruit. They want to be told all is well and that they SHALL PROSPER if they simply believe on My name and My promises. Lies, lies, lies, I tell you.

http://www.hearhisheart.wordpress.com/


178 posted on 07/12/2012 12:38:35 AM PDT by stpio
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