[HarleyD]

When I read your posts I get the impression of someone peeking in a window trying desperately to describe something they don't recognize and can't see clearly. The real problem is when you then try to argue with the homeowners about what is actually inside their house.

That sounds like an argument made by a cult member.

Do us all a favor and take some actual classes conducted by a certified catechist so that you can accurately portray Catholic teachings.

And I've seen this many times before. It's a weak argument used by Catholics who seem incapable or unwilling to articulate the dogma of the Church. I suspect that it's simply because Catholic doctrine has become so muddled that no one really knows what it is today. There are gobs and gobs of writings from which one can pick and choose that it's just too confusing. So Catholics simply just go along and try to convince everyone that the emperor really is wearing clothes.

[Hacksaw]

That sounds like an argument made by a cult member.

Naw, it sounds like an accurate observation. You people don't know what you are talking about, and then try to tell us what we believe. It's like trying to convince me that I am driving a Honda when I am driving a Toyota - and your response is "Well they are both made in Japan, so there!". After a while it gets silly.