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To: count-your-change

On Michael the Archangel

OK, the reason for my curiosity about what you believe about Jesus being Michael is two-fold. First, upon reviewing your argument, I agree it falls far short of proof, and I am a bit surprised that you hold a theological belief you admit you cannot prove from Scripture.

So my follow-up question would be this: Given that you have accepted the Watchtower’s Michael theory on such admittedly weak grounds, is this because you believe they have unique authority to speak as the voice of God on earth today?

Because if you do see them that way, I’d like to get your input on the following quote:

“This is a campaign extraordinaire, one that will be memorialized for all time. Wave upon wave of insects, most prominently locusts, devastate the land. What does this mean? Revelation 9:1-12 also speaks of a plague of locusts, sent forth by Jehovah under “a king, the angel of the abyss,” who is none other than Christ Jesus. His names Abaddon (Hebrew) and Apollyon (Greek) mean “Destruction” and “Destroyer.” These locusts picture the anointed remnant of Christians who, now in the Lord’s day, go forth to devastate Christendom’s pastures by completely exposing false religion and proclaiming Jehovah’s vengeance upon it.” — Watchtower 5/1/1992

So is Jesus Michael, or Abaddon/Appolyon, or both, in your view?

Peace,

SR


600 posted on 07/24/2012 3:12:28 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
As I said before, when there is not a clear statement one has to use what information is available to reason upon and arrive at a conclusion that best fits.

That is what I think has been done here and unless something more precise comes along, yes, I can accept that all of these are names for Christ in his various roles given he was also referred as Emmanuel, the Word, etc.

So it would appear from Rev. 20:1-3 that this Abaddon/Apollyon were one and the same.

But perhaps you have better information and will offer your own view, yes? No? Who do you think these ones are?

601 posted on 07/24/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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