That is not the point. The point is, should an entire group be found responsible and guilty for the sins of a very tiny minority of that group? In other words, do you find the group Judas Iscariot was part of (including Peter, James, John, and all the other apostles, as well as Jesus Christ Himself), responsible for and guilty of the sins committed by Judas Iscariot, just because they were all part of his group?
(None of us know for sure what would have happened to Judas if he had repented, but we do know what later happened to Saul/Paul who was a major participant in a killing rampage against the Church, and Jesus asked him why he was persecuting Jesus. (See Acts Chapters 7, 8, and 9.) Paul later became an apostle himself.)
(By the way, many of the Bishops shown at that web site that James Mott provided have long since been removed from their responsibilities, including Egan and Weakland. Do you believe that when someone is first accused of something they should be permanently fired as guilty without any investigation or due process to determine the veracity of the charges against them?)
Also, in reference to your post number "43", it sounds like you feel that Mary is not really special.
So, God picked only this one beautiful person - Mary - to be overshadowed by God the Holy Spirit and conceive in her womb Jesus Christ - God the Son while remaining a virgin, then to give birth to him, to nurse him, and raise him, and initiate his first recorded public miracle, and watch him die, and you do not think she was special?
God did not pick you boatbums, or me, or any of the other posters here, or any of the billions and billions and billions of other people who ever existed from the beginning of the human race to the present to do all these things, only Mary. Do you seriously not find her to be a special, uniquely chosen person by God Almighty, for a singularly unique and special purpose, or are you just putting all of us on?
My point was NOT that an individual within a group who does wrong makes all those within the group equally guilty. No, not at all. My point was only if that wicked person was being allowed to REMAIN in a leadership position within the group and no attempts were made BY the group to help the person come to repentance and "bring forth works meet for repentance" (Acts 26:20). Again, if Judas Iscariot had not hung himself and showed up the week after the resurrection, would the eleven have greeted him with hugs and kisses and thought it okay for Judas to remain as an Apostle? I really do not think they would have. Would Jesus have forgiven him? Sure, but wouldn't he have had to first confess to doing a grave wrong and genuinely determined to NOT repeat the same thing? The Apostles would have been rightfully blamed had they accepted an unrepentant Judas back into the group and that was really my only point.
Also, in reference to your post number "43", it sounds like you feel that Mary is not really special. So, God picked only this one beautiful person - Mary - to be overshadowed by God the Holy Spirit and conceive in her womb Jesus Christ - God the Son while remaining a virgin, then to give birth to him, to nurse him, and raise him, and initiate his first recorded public miracle, and watch him die, and you do not think she was special? God did not pick you boatbums, or me, or any of the other posters here, or any of the billions and billions and billions of other people who ever existed from the beginning of the human race to the present to do all these things, only Mary. Do you seriously not find her to be a special, uniquely chosen person by God Almighty, for a singularly unique and special purpose, or are you just putting all of us on?
It really depends upon your definition of "special". Do I believe Mary was a virgin who led a virtuous life? Yes. Do I believe Mary continued to exhibit strong faith throughout her life as the mother of our Savior? Absolutely! God would not have chosen a woman who could not have dealt with the trials and great responsibilities placed upon her. She was special in that way, of course. But was Mary a human being who was born with a sin nature like ALL mankind is apart from Jesus? I don't think there is anywhere in Scripture that says she was was immune from that. In fact, Scripture says ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23). No exception was made other than Jesus who was sinless because he was God in the flesh. So Mary was set apart so that God would fulfill his promise to come into the world as a man. And Mary was also given a choice, was she not? She COULD have refused, but she didn't because God knows all things before they even happen. I'm sorry if you have taken my words to in any way disparage Mary, because I certainly do not. What I disparage is the myth, hype, legend and unscriptural glorification of Mary that, in some places, puts her above the Lord Jesus. I reject the many dogmas that have been created that encourage such deification of Mary and that place the grace of God under her authority to divvy out. I reject any doctrines that do not have Scriptural warrant, but this does not mean I don't think Mary is special. She is, but in the way that God makes all those special who he chooses to accomplish his will and who willingly, out of love and dedication to Him do as he commands them to. We are ALL blessed when God's will is done.