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A just-released survey conducted by LifeWay Research found that roughly equal numbers of SBC pastors identify their congregation as Calvinist/Reformed (30%) or Arminian/Wesleyan (30%). More than 60 percent are concerned about Calvinism's influence on the denomination.
1 posted on 07/06/2012 6:25:22 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

This is a distraction.

The real problem in the SBC is the so-called “Great Commission Resurgence”, which has proven to be a vehicle for injecting social liberalism/emergent church views into the convention.

This does connect with a kind of corrupt Arminianism found in much of the SBC leadership that focuses on numbers. Lifeway is a big part of the problem, but so is the influence of the children of some SBC leaders who are telling their daddies that they will “alienate” young people (media saturated, public school indoctrinated young people) if the SBC continues holding “icky” social views.

So now the SBC hierarchy has “embraced diversity”, “affirmative action”, amnesty, and some environmentalism, and is softening ever so subtlely its positions on sodomites and several other issues. Opposing amnesty and “diversity” will now get you called a “racist” by the national leadership.

The imbecile leadership thinks that it can combine “Inerrantism” and “moderate” social liberalism and that that will reverse its membership decline. All they think they need to do just loosen up to be “culturally relevant” and pander to what they think youth, black pastors, an dhispanic pastors want. They also want to lose the “SBC” name.

The rank and file needs to clean house if they want to save the SBC. Otherwise it will look a lot like the PCUSA in 5-10 years.

In essence, the SBC is becoming a larger version of the CBF - the conservative resurgence has failed - and Patterson wants to argue soteriology. What a travesty.


2 posted on 07/06/2012 6:59:53 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cronos

“More than 60 percent are concerned about Calvinism’s influence on the denomination.”

Wow. More worried about reformed theology than worldliness and the poisonous pop culture? Says it all.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 7:08:28 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: Cronos; SoothingDave; Salvation
This situation shouldn't be possible, according to Southern Baptist assumptions - specifically sola Scriptura.

According to that doctrine, the Bible should be a sufficiently clear guide when it comes down to foundational issues like salvation.

Yet it seems like one third of Southern Baptists believe one doctrine of salvation, one third believe the opposite doctrine of salvation, and one third cannot decide which doctrine of salvation to believe - and the deciding source of authority on which they are supposed to rely, the Bible, is the ground rather than the arbiter of the dispute.

4 posted on 07/06/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Cronos

Meanwhile...

Pope Defends His Top Aide Amid Vatican Infighting
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303684004577506880615485076.html
Pope Benedict XVI defended his closest aide against a tide of “unjust criticism” in an unusual open letter that underscored the pontiff’s struggle to quell months of infighting within the Vatican’s corridors.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 7:21:23 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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"We do believe that the entire human race is badly affected by the fall of Adam. However, we don't follow the Reformed view that man is so crippled by the fall that he has no choice."

Yeah, whatever.

20 posted on 07/06/2012 9:35:51 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Cronos

This is a distraction, nothing more nothing less. There have been many such “distractions” throughout the organization’s history. The individual churches which make up the SBC have members with both Calvinist and non-Calvinist beliefs, and despite what articles like this would have everyone else believe — we all get along just fine.


23 posted on 07/06/2012 11:42:41 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: Cronos

This is a distraction, nothing more nothing less. There have been many such “distractions” throughout the organization’s history. The individual churches which make up the SBC have members with both Calvinist and non-Calvinist beliefs, and despite what articles like this would have everyone else believe — we all get along just fine.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 11:43:22 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: Cronos
How few actually can articulate what Adam's sin literally was? That goes for allllll divisions of Christianity.
25 posted on 07/06/2012 11:48:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Cronos
The more people move away from reformed theology, the more they embrace liberal theology. That in itself should be telling.

It's a shame the Baptists have forgotten their own confession.
27 posted on 07/06/2012 5:00:31 PM PDT by HarleyD
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