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To: spunkets
Nothing you posted from this link addresses the fact that the language of Jewish Scripture is Hebrew — then and now.

During the two centuries before Christ, most new Tanakhs were written in Greek, though. There was no one Jewish scripture, anyway; various schools varied somewhat.

There was no "text". There were books written in Hebrew, which were not unanamously accepted by the Jews as Jewish canon.

Nonetheless, the Septuagint was written in Greek.

The OT belongs to the Jews. They never did accept them as Canon.

The Septuagint did.

The OT belongs to the Jews, the folks you mentioned do not have the authority to determine what belongs in their Scripture. They can add those Books to their Canon, but it is not the OT according to the folks of the Old Covenant. As I noted, the distinctions are non-existent for the most part.

The Christian canon was declared by the Church, not the Jews. Otherwise none of the NT would have been included.

That's anecdotal non-evidence.

Versus your anecdotal non evidence? How about naming me a parish that you think does not have a Bible, and I can call them up and ask them. Or you can.

171 posted on 07/17/2012 6:45:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"The Christian canon was declared by the Church, not the Jews."

A Church is an independent organization contained within an unorganized belief system called Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church does not represent, or have authority over all Churches, nor does it represent, or have authority over Christianity. Christianity itself is fundamentally the belief that the man Jesus is God.

Each Church organization has created their own organizational structure, culture and details of beliefs held by that organization. The first major organizational split resulted, because of the Roman Catholic's insistence on the installation of their Bishop as the supreme Bishop with authority over all the others. There's also "doctrinal" differences that resulted from that split and differences in their methodologies used to determine what is doctrine.

Both the Roman and Orthodox Catholic Churches chose to use the Septuagint to develop their canon. They do not have the authority, nor the justification to determine anyone elses canon. Fundamentally, the OT belongs to the Jews. Christianity is the NT and is based on Jesus. Nothing can be lost by holding a canon that consists of the OT canon of the Jews and the NT, because of what God said in Matt 11:27, "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.", John 6:45 "It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[Isaiah 54:13] Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me." and John 6:35, "Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty."

"How about naming me a parish that you think does not have a Bible, and I can call them up and ask them."

The point was not that there is no Bible in the parish. the fact is that the Bible is not normally used during a Mass. I gave the link of the USCCB that explains why. The reason is that they use preselected readings that are given in Lectionaries. Lectionaries are used, not Bibles and they do not resemble Bibles. They are organizational works.

173 posted on 07/17/2012 9:11:52 PM PDT by spunkets
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