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"Go and sin no more"...being born again and real salvation means no more sinning.
Youtube ^ | 07/12/12 | fabian

Posted on 07/12/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by fabian

There is a power and technique that the church has missed. The quiet stillness where real salvation is gifted to us effortlessly is real prayer. Please find it so we can all fight for our nation and right much more effectively!


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: apostasy; bornagain; redemption; roymasters; salvation; sinning; wayofthemaster
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To: fabian

I see no anger in the responses. People seem to be dealing with you very gently.


51 posted on 07/13/2012 6:40:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: fabian

Maybe you have a very limited view of what sin is.

Do you think you have complete communion with God? That you know His perfect Will for you every minute of the day and you are in it?

You believe it is God’s perfect Will for you to be sitting at a computer arguing with people on Free Republic?


52 posted on 07/13/2012 7:14:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: fabian
There is only one sin. Everything else is but a symptom of that sin.

That is why there is only one punishment, no matter how minor the symptom may be.

53 posted on 07/13/2012 7:26:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: fabian

“not possible to sin once God seals you...”

Preposterous!!!!

What about Galatians 5:4 - Christ is become of no effect unto you,whatsoever of you are justified by the law, you are fallen from grace ...

the Christian Galatian church had accepted Jesus but was screwing up and Paul could see that they were in danger of losing their salvation and was warning them. Salvation is not guaranteed. Our free will can and does choose evil even after we believe in Jesus because we are not gods - we are fallen humans.


54 posted on 07/13/2012 7:35:57 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: fabian
What John means is obviously ALL have sinned and are in need of being saved. Sin is in us, but once the born agian experience happens, that is it! You guys use translation of certain scripture to justify sinning and shame on you! Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit? Of course not!

Christ did NOT say 'born again' to Nicodemus. He said born from above.... verse 13 makes the instructional to Nicodemus and then to any who read His words quite plain. To 'see' the kingdom of God one must be born from above, just as Luke described the conception of Christ.

What was it that the serpent whispered into the woman's ear????

55 posted on 07/13/2012 7:42:25 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
What was it that the serpent whispered into the woman's ear????

Because he knew he was under surveillance....????

56 posted on 07/13/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: fabian
Romans 6;9-18:
Rom 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
Rom 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
Rom 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Rom 6:13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
Rom 6:16 Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Rom 6:18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
I find it quite interesting that he discusses sin with believers--not as a past issue, but as a present challenge to overcome and deal with.

Don't you find that interesting as well?

57 posted on 07/13/2012 7:49:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DManA

Yes, I can and do know His will for me every moment as I live in the momment , and not in my head. It is a natural and blessed way to live and very very simple. However, it demands courage as we must be honest with love, and that causes demonic anger in people whom we love...often. This is a big reason why believers, or semi-believers are not strong...cowardice. We need to be salt of the earth! But how? Go to the copingstrategiescd.com and you will see the path there. So effective that the military is using it now!


58 posted on 07/13/2012 8:05:02 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you for those! Slaves to righteousness...exactly my point here. Once we are born again...we are in His army and it is a very precious thing. He is not going to let us go, just as once the rebellion in heaven took place and a third of the angels were cast out with Lucifer...those left had made their choice for God. That was finished. So with us upon salvation.


59 posted on 07/13/2012 8:08:09 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Future Snake Eater
Because he knew he was under surveillance....????

The 'serpent' or the first rebel does not care IF he is under surveillance... he has already been sentenced to death and he wants company when his being is destroyed. After all look what he tempted Christ with by twisting the WORD, IF Christ would bend His knee unto the shinning one. There has been nothing on the stage of performing arts that holds a candle to the deceiver. He is about to get his last and biggest role since he rebelled. He is going to get to play the role of 'Jesus', once again twisting the WORD for to deceive.

60 posted on 07/13/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Oops, my bad, I thought you asked "Why was it that the serpent whispered into the woman's ear????"

Yeah, I gotcha. He's done. He's been done for thousands of years. It's just a matter of how many he's going to drag down with him.

61 posted on 07/13/2012 8:17:58 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: G Larry

1 John 3:7-15
King James Version (KJV)
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

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Its very clear that Born Again Christians do no sin anymore. There aren’t many truly Born Again Christians. That is why you don’t know anybody.

The Truth of the matter is that most people who call themselves Christians really are not. Of course, that is an unacceptable truth to most.

If you continue to sin, you are not a Born Again Christian.


62 posted on 07/13/2012 9:38:38 AM PDT by tedw (addiction)
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To: tedw

“If you continue to sin, you are not a Born Again Christian.”

Pride is a sin.
Chief among those refusing to be acknowledged.


63 posted on 07/13/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: tedw

Was Paul “Born Again”?

Why did he profess to live in fear and trembling regarding his salvation?


64 posted on 07/13/2012 10:19:26 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Romans Chapter 8 in no way says that we no longer sin. It states that we are now made clean in the eyes of God. The flesh is always sinful...but the Grace of God blots that out from his sight due to the sacrifice of Jesus. As believers we desire to be sinless, but we are incapable of lacking sin due to the fact that we are still in the flesh.

We are not sinless...that is blaspheme. What we are is forgiven. You make a very dangerous read of Scripture and I hope you repent for I’m afraid you do not fully grasp the plan of Salvation if you think you are without sin.


65 posted on 07/13/2012 12:29:34 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: G Larry

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100128212249AABQL4V

This text is often misused to instill fear into people, warning them that it means that they can lose salvation. What does it mean to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? It does not seem likely that Paul could have meant literally that they were to live in a continuous condition of nervousness and anxiety. After all, the very same Spirit inspired Paul to write that “God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline” (2 Timothy 1:7). The Greek word translated ‘fear’ in this context can equally mean ‘reverence’ or ‘respect.’ When Paul writes to the Corinthians and reports that Titus had been encouraged and refreshed by their reception of him, he goes on to say that the Corinthian Christians received him with ‘fear and trembling’ (2 Corinthians 7:15). It makes little sense that a Christian minister would be encouraged and refreshed by a display of nervous anxiety! Rather Titus was delighted by their obedience to the God they revered.


66 posted on 07/13/2012 2:49:32 PM PDT by tedw (addiction)
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To: fabian
Isn’t there one person on this thread that no longer gets mad nor prideful? Those are the roots of all sins. Master patience and not sinning is easy!

Prideful is probably better defined as someone who thinks they don't sin.

The older I get the more disgusted I am with my sin and the more I cling to the Cross. That is the result of being born again.

67 posted on 07/13/2012 3:16:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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To: fabian
Actually once you really love God more than anything in life, it is natural to not covet anything.

Yes. Are you there yet?

68 posted on 07/13/2012 3:28:58 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

yes


69 posted on 07/13/2012 7:53:26 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Gamecock

No, I just know the power that God has blessed me with. Not pride at all to proclaim that as it does not come from me! And your disgust is what keeps you from really overcoming all of your sins.


70 posted on 07/13/2012 9:03:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1 John 1:8
71 posted on 07/13/2012 9:23:06 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: tedw
Was Paul not yet born again when he wrote, "For the good which I will, I do not; but the evil which I will not, that I do. [...] I see another law in my members, fighting against the law of my mind, and captivating me in the law of sin, that is in my members. [...] I myself, with the mind serve the law of God; but with the flesh, the law of sin."? - Romans 7:19, 23, 25
72 posted on 07/13/2012 9:34:12 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I guess you missed the post here that show in the bible all of the places where we do gain power to not sin after salvation. The true meaning of your quote is all HAVE sinned...obviously. You are twisting the meaning to fit your own weakness.


73 posted on 07/13/2012 10:04:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
I'd be careful:

We all sin-Christians included. It's just that God the Father uses us in spite of our nature. And He can look on us because of the precious work of Christ.

Peter warned Christians not to be considered a "a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler" (I Pet 4:15). And Paul tells us not to think more highly of ourselves as we should.

74 posted on 07/14/2012 6:52:36 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

I see that YOU really need to be careful...
Rom 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
Rom 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
Rom 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Rom 6:13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
Rom 6:16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Rom 6:18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.


75 posted on 07/14/2012 7:21:49 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: G Larry

We are all fallen, and incapable of “sinning no more”.

This is why we require repeated repentance and forgiveness, along with continual prayer.

To provide the strength and the grace to do better.

Knowing we will always fall short.

Know anybody who hasn’t sinned in the last year?
ya...me either...


I will either have to agree or to say that i am not a believer.

John ch 5
24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

I believe in God and his son, so i have to agree.


76 posted on 07/14/2012 11:06:27 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: fabian

What John means is obviously ALL have sinned and are in need of being saved. Sin is in us, but once the born agian experience happens, that is it! You guys use translation of certain scripture to justify sinning and shame on you!
Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit? Of course not!


Yes i can, paul called himself an apostle i think.

Romans 7:19
For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do .

Is evil sin or not?


77 posted on 07/14/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: SoConPubbie

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


mortify

1. causing to feel shame or chagrin or vexation
2. causing awareness of your shortcomings


Any one who has not the spirit has no shame for some things they may do they might even brag about, they do not think it is wrong because they do not believe.

But the believers can not get by with this because their Spirit shames them, makes them aware, they can not feel good about it.

What would be the reason for verse 13 if believers did not sin?


78 posted on 07/14/2012 11:56:05 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: hoagy62

A number of years ago, I spoke at a missions conference for religious leaders. God- who obviously thought it was funny- put me at the dinner table with one of the most uptight and angry men I’ve ever met.


This shows that to be true.

Luke 18
10
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12
i fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


79 posted on 07/14/2012 12:10:03 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: fabian

No.

It’s a sign of growth as a Christian.

Same experience that Paul had...


80 posted on 07/14/2012 12:13:59 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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To: Salvation

Once Save - Always Saved doesn’t work for humans because we all sin.

If we are not sinning any more, we are six feet under in a grave.


That is right, God can cleans our hearts but only death can put a stop to our sin of the flesh.

Some things are easy for us to stop doing, for instance a man who only has a sexual desire to please himself at the spur of the moment may not have any problem not coveting an other mans wife

Or a man that is not hungry, making a glutton of himself.
Or a man that can not stand the taste of wine being a wino.

I have no desire to wear one yellow sock and one black one so when i got to where i could buy socks in pairs i always wear two socks of the same color.


81 posted on 07/14/2012 12:39:10 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Gamecock

1 John 3:9 “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.”

If you believe a true Christian cannot stop sinning then you do not believe the Scripture. Read slowly and carefully what I have posted: Whosoever is Born of God doth not commit sin.

There is a false Christianity that teaches this is not true.

He who has ears to hear let him hear.


82 posted on 07/14/2012 12:50:23 PM PDT by tedw (addiction)
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To: fabian

I guess you missed the post here that show in the bible all of the places where we do gain power to not sin after salvation. The true meaning of your quote is all HAVE sinned...obviously. You are twisting the meaning to fit your own weakness.


As you can see by the below scriptures, it is referring to the past and also to the present.

John 1
8
If we say that we have no sin,( Present )we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10
If we say that we have not sinned, ( past )we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

The power that we gain may not happen all of a sudden, it may take a life time and if it makes us perfect or not is only in our own eyes.

Perfect to some people is nothing more than not using tobacco.

To others you may be perfect if you did not believe in homosexual marriage.

To some it is almost impossible to be perfect but some how they are. of course the small letters says by the grace of God.


83 posted on 07/14/2012 1:11:30 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: fabian
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1 John 1:8

The true meaning of your quote is all HAVE sinned...obviously. You are twisting the meaning

No, I'm taking the words according to their plain meaning.

to fit your own weakness.

Accusing me of weakness after two posts is a sin. Repent.

84 posted on 07/14/2012 1:23:38 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: fabian
Was Paul not yet saved when he wrote, "For the good which I will, I do not; but the evil which I will not, that I do. [...] I see another law in my members, fighting against the law of my mind, and captivating me in the law of sin, that is in my members. [...] I myself, with the mind serve the law of God; but with the flesh, the law of sin."? - Romans 7:19, 23, 25
85 posted on 07/14/2012 1:25:56 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: tedw

Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God, ein my inner being, 23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.


86 posted on 07/14/2012 2:18:33 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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To: fabian
Rom 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus....Rom 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.

We are to count ourselves dead to sin but that doesn't mean we are free from sin. Paul also stated:

Paul knew very well that we as Christians serve the law of sin.

Quite frankly I find Christians who state that they are not subject to sin or do not have sin quite puzzling. I only have to look inside my heart to see corruption. It refreshes me to know that God is taking care of "the mess in the attic" but I'm also well aware of my own inadequacies. As Paul states, thanks be to God that we can serve the law of God because of Christ. All one has to do is look inside themselves to see their own corruption. And that's the very heart of what being a Christian is all about.

87 posted on 07/14/2012 2:18:49 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: fabian

The only people I know who do not sin are God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. (Of course the elect angels also are in that category.)

All the others who claim not to sin have either scarred their souls so much that they arrogantly ignore their sin or those who feel so very proud about how sinless they have become, that they also have fallen into sin.


88 posted on 07/14/2012 3:30:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: HarleyD

Misusing Paul to have a good excuse to still sin. Obviously Paul is talking about before salvation.


89 posted on 07/14/2012 6:25:14 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: tedw

Thank you for those quotes...makes it very clear!


90 posted on 07/14/2012 6:29:07 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Cvengr

1 John 3:7-15
King James Version (KJV)
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
You can try and wiggle yourself out of John’s real insights here...but it will not work.


91 posted on 07/14/2012 6:31:46 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: HarleyD

you are simply wrong...
1 John 3:7-15
King James Version (KJV)
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


92 posted on 07/14/2012 6:33:10 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

It is true, there is no temptation too great than that which may be resisted, but that does not entail some believers never sin after salvation.

We still are scarred in our souls from past sinful memories which we recall when facing situations where we sinned in the past.

We also have an old sin nature in our bodies which lead us to sin, even when the new man would otherwise.

In both situations, without appealing to immorality, we frequently sin by not being in the right place at the right time, having followed our personal thinking independent of God, instead of only thinking through faith in Him.

If you have driven 22mph in a 22mph speed zone, without cognition of the infraction, you have still sinned. If you drove 10 mph in a 20mph speed limit zone because you personally want to make sure you do not threaten any children in the area, but do this independent of faith in Christ, you also sin for substituting your guidance of your life for His Plan.

As soon as that happens, we fall out of fellowship with Him, requiring us to change our thinking back through faith in Him and confessing those sins to Him to return back to fellowship with Him, to live by His Plan.


93 posted on 07/14/2012 8:36:15 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: fabian; HarleyD
Rom 7:25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

Misusing Paul to have a good excuse to still sin.

Who said anything about excusing sin? That baseless accusation is another of your sins on this thread.

Obviously Paul is talking about before salvation.

Paul is talking in the first person and present tense - so are you saying he wasn't yet saved when he wrote that?

94 posted on 07/14/2012 9:06:33 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: fabian
Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit?

Paul reports that Peter "was to be blamed" (Galatians 2:11) for holding himself separate from the Gentile Christians.

95 posted on 07/14/2012 9:16:55 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: SoConPubbie
In order to truly understand in context Romans Chapter 7, you have to read Romans chapter 8:1-16 as those scripture verses show that this same man now turns to Christ as his Savior

No sale. Both chapters are written in the present tense.

96 posted on 07/14/2012 9:21:09 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Obviously Paul was not yet saved....and i am rather appalled at the misapplication of certain scriptures to justify weakness, and it is not a sin to see and expose that! It is a sin to accuse me of that sin. Give me a break....


97 posted on 07/14/2012 9:31:53 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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Obviously Paul was not yet saved....

Then what did he mean by saying in verse 2 of the very next chapter, "For the law of the spirit of life, in Christ Jesus, hath delivered me from the law of sin and of death"?

and i am rather appalled at the misapplication of certain scriptures to justify weakness

Nobody is trying to justify weakness. Stop bearing false witness.

98 posted on 07/14/2012 9:47:37 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

That is EXACTLY what you are doing and then you go accusing me of your SIN. You Are misusing scripture to justify your sins...this is obvious. Shame on you..
you are simply wrong...
1 John 3:7-15
King James Version (KJV)
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


99 posted on 07/14/2012 9:59:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

are you going to now try and prove the most blessed John wrong? Go ahead and try...
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


100 posted on 07/14/2012 10:01:16 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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