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"Go and sin no more"...being born again and real salvation means no more sinning.
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Posted on 07/12/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by fabian

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In the Religion forum, on a thread titled "Go and sin no more"...being born again and real salvation means no more sinning., fabian wrote:
It actually is not possible to sin once God seals you into his family. You do not know the real power of the spirit.
What odd sect teaches this stuff?
41 posted on 07/12/2012 7:36:35 PM PDT by narses
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To: Iscool

Doesn’t matter...he never would have commanded the it for all to read if it were not attainable! That is commonsense.


42 posted on 07/12/2012 7:51:07 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Iscool

in the last ten minutes?


43 posted on 07/12/2012 8:24:11 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: narses
It actually is not possible to sin once God seals you into his family. You do not know the real power of the spirit.

What odd sect teaches this stuff?

One who believes that God is the wielder of the almighty Baggie;

rather than the wielder of the almighty markmaker:


44 posted on 07/12/2012 8:47:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: fabian
An except from a book...”Three Free Sins” By Steve Brown (copyright 2012, Howard Books)
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A number of years ago, I spoke at a missions conference for religious leaders. God- who obviously thought it was funny- put me at the dinner table with one of the most uptight and angry men I've ever met. (Well, that may be an overstatement given that I've met a lot of uptight and angry people in my line of work. But he was certainly in the running.) When the conversation turned to the doctrine of entire sanctification, I worked really hard to be civil. (Entire sanctification is the doctrine that says a Christian can reach a place in his or her own life where there is no longer any known sin.)

But then the man claimed the experience of entire sanctification for himself.

I said something quite profound: “You've got to be kidding!”

“No,” he replied. “I'm not kidding. Holiness is never a kidding matter. God has granted me the victorious life, and I give Him all the glory.”
“What do you do with your pride?” I asked. “Seems to me that if you’ve won the medal for being the most humble man and you wear it, they should take it away. Isn't it kind of sinful to tell me that you're entirely sanctified? In fact, I think that if someone were entirely sanctified, he wouldn't even know it.”
I don't remember what he said, but I do remember that he was quite angry, and I didn't have to sit at the same table with him anymore because he avoided me the rest of the week. That made both of us happier.

I heard a couple of years later that he had left the ministry because of a moral failure.
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A sinless life...entire sanctification...is NOT possible. Anyone who says it is is deceived. It is a lie from the pit of Hell and it smells like smoke.

45 posted on 07/12/2012 8:51:09 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

no..what smells like smoke is you guys denying the very power of the holy spirit. The fact is that on Pentecost the apostles were filled with the spirit and at that very moment became powerful for the truth. They would not have had that if they had kept on back sliding into sin and that is why you weak Christians never really gain much ground. You deny the very fact of real power over sin that God has granted us!


46 posted on 07/12/2012 9:29:13 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Once Save - Always Saved doesn’t work for humans because we all sin.

If we are not sinning any more, we are six feet under in a grave.


47 posted on 07/12/2012 9:57:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: The Unknown Republican

Not by Paul’s doing, but by God’s doing.


48 posted on 07/12/2012 9:59:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Isn’t there one person on this thread that no longer gets mad nor prideful? Those are the roots of all sins. Master patience and not sinning is easy!


49 posted on 07/13/2012 1:16:40 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

....Or do your very best efforts anyways.


50 posted on 07/13/2012 3:19:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: fabian

I see no anger in the responses. People seem to be dealing with you very gently.


51 posted on 07/13/2012 6:40:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: fabian

Maybe you have a very limited view of what sin is.

Do you think you have complete communion with God? That you know His perfect Will for you every minute of the day and you are in it?

You believe it is God’s perfect Will for you to be sitting at a computer arguing with people on Free Republic?


52 posted on 07/13/2012 7:14:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: fabian
There is only one sin. Everything else is but a symptom of that sin.

That is why there is only one punishment, no matter how minor the symptom may be.

53 posted on 07/13/2012 7:26:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: fabian

“not possible to sin once God seals you...”

Preposterous!!!!

What about Galatians 5:4 - Christ is become of no effect unto you,whatsoever of you are justified by the law, you are fallen from grace ...

the Christian Galatian church had accepted Jesus but was screwing up and Paul could see that they were in danger of losing their salvation and was warning them. Salvation is not guaranteed. Our free will can and does choose evil even after we believe in Jesus because we are not gods - we are fallen humans.


54 posted on 07/13/2012 7:35:57 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: fabian
What John means is obviously ALL have sinned and are in need of being saved. Sin is in us, but once the born agian experience happens, that is it! You guys use translation of certain scripture to justify sinning and shame on you! Can you imagine the apostles still sinning after they were filled with the spirit? Of course not!

Christ did NOT say 'born again' to Nicodemus. He said born from above.... verse 13 makes the instructional to Nicodemus and then to any who read His words quite plain. To 'see' the kingdom of God one must be born from above, just as Luke described the conception of Christ.

What was it that the serpent whispered into the woman's ear????

55 posted on 07/13/2012 7:42:25 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
What was it that the serpent whispered into the woman's ear????

Because he knew he was under surveillance....????

56 posted on 07/13/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: fabian
Romans 6;9-18:
Rom 6:9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
Rom 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
Rom 6:11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Rom 6:13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
Rom 6:16 Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Rom 6:18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
I find it quite interesting that he discusses sin with believers--not as a past issue, but as a present challenge to overcome and deal with.

Don't you find that interesting as well?

57 posted on 07/13/2012 7:49:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DManA

Yes, I can and do know His will for me every moment as I live in the momment , and not in my head. It is a natural and blessed way to live and very very simple. However, it demands courage as we must be honest with love, and that causes demonic anger in people whom we love...often. This is a big reason why believers, or semi-believers are not strong...cowardice. We need to be salt of the earth! But how? Go to the copingstrategiescd.com and you will see the path there. So effective that the military is using it now!


58 posted on 07/13/2012 8:05:02 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you for those! Slaves to righteousness...exactly my point here. Once we are born again...we are in His army and it is a very precious thing. He is not going to let us go, just as once the rebellion in heaven took place and a third of the angels were cast out with Lucifer...those left had made their choice for God. That was finished. So with us upon salvation.


59 posted on 07/13/2012 8:08:09 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Future Snake Eater
Because he knew he was under surveillance....????

The 'serpent' or the first rebel does not care IF he is under surveillance... he has already been sentenced to death and he wants company when his being is destroyed. After all look what he tempted Christ with by twisting the WORD, IF Christ would bend His knee unto the shinning one. There has been nothing on the stage of performing arts that holds a candle to the deceiver. He is about to get his last and biggest role since he rebelled. He is going to get to play the role of 'Jesus', once again twisting the WORD for to deceive.

60 posted on 07/13/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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