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ORDER. TRAITIONS. GOD's ORDER.
Faith | GOD-inspired

Posted on 07/15/2012 4:03:53 AM PDT by jesus4life

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To: jesus4life
Matthew 18:15-17: "15 “If your brother or sister[a] sins,[b] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector."

I do not see how asking a simple question on an open forum is sin. Since you have indicated that you are not a preacher, therefore it is up to you to convince the members of the forum and I of your arguments.

Implying that a brother in Christ is a pagan or a tax collector is deeply offensive.

I implore you to please participate as a member of the FreeRepublic Forum.

21 posted on 07/16/2012 3:31:46 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

tax collector and pagan are words in the passage. No implication is there.

Argument?? I dont have one.

Just sending out passages to inspire other believers. If possible awaken faith of non-believers ( that’s up to GOD).

But, arguements?? Can’t even say I have had any here since I have been here on this site. Discussions at best with certain people. But arguements? No.

Remember that JESUS said those words Tax collector or pagan in that passage, so, it would be HIM that you would be referring to as being deeply offensive.

Love to you and all people in the holy precious name of JESUS CHRIST who lives and reigns amongs us forever and ever.

GOD BLESS US ALL,


22 posted on 07/16/2012 4:43:18 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: Eastbound

No worries my friend.

May you days and nights be full of blessings.

Have a great day as GOD already blesses every day.

GOD BLESS US ALL,


23 posted on 07/16/2012 4:45:54 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life
so, it would be HIM that you would be referring to as being deeply offensive.

Nope.

24 posted on 07/16/2012 4:52:49 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402; jesus4life
"The fact that God is three persons acting in unity is something that must be embraced by faith."

Just so I understand what you mean when you use the word, person, are you saying that God sees three of himself when he looks in the mirror or is that just metaphorically speaking?

Perhaps we can use jesus4life's reference to the Godhead as a point of departure here if you want to discuss it further.

The reason I brought it up to begin with was to select a part of jesus4life's scripture that isn't really all that clear to most folks and I believed I had something to offer as well, in that it's a body ministry.

25 posted on 07/16/2012 6:45:45 PM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Eastbound

Eastbound,

We all have something to offer, as GOD gives us all a certain amount of gifts and wisdom that we can all learn from.

Yet we must be obedient in all things, as GOD has ordered, and is always watching.

As you have agreed below that what you were referring to was not mentioned by me ( and you apologized). So, it may be easier just to start your own topic, then, you would find the people who would want to have this discussion.

Or, you can stay here and continue. It’s your choice.

Tomorrow there will be a different passage and possibly different replies. I am only here because GOD wakes me up daily, I pray, then HE sends me passages to read, and GOD has me send them out on my phone, emails, and certain sites. What people want to discuss after is free for people to discuss or not discuss on the same post or make their own; it’s their choice. May we all respect their choices.

Normally if someone stays on topic, and obeys Matthew 18:15-17, I will have a conversation all day. As many here have had that experience with me. But, in obedience to Matthew 18:15-17, that’s the order in which I will give discuss/debate and give answers.

But first and foremost, I pray people seek GOD first, faith, prayer, and the WORD before they want to ask me any questions.

Love to you and all people in the holy precious name of Jesus Christ,

GOD BLESS US ALL,

Jesus4life


26 posted on 07/16/2012 11:05:21 PM PDT by jesus4life
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"Normally if someone stays on topic, and obeys Matthew 18:15-17, I will have a conversation all day. As many here have had that experience with me. But, in obedience to Matthew 18:15-17, that’s the order in which I will give discuss/debate and give answers."

It appears to me that you would rather play the role of pastor or prophet rather than just be one of the flock seeking answers or sharing information.

That being the case, don't you think your post would be better received if you posted it as a blog rather than under the religion category?

It's not my desire to follow some unified type church service which you apparently are aiming for here, with your requirement that we all read a specific portion of scripture before we begin to read the body of your original post.

Different rules for blogs than for general topics. You can specify the type responses you would like to receive from a blog post, because that's considered to be your own property, so to speak. Not so with the regular FR topics, including religion. So if you want to play the role of preacher and start a following, the blog would be the place to do it.

For your edification.

27 posted on 07/17/2012 1:43:31 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: jesus4life
"Normally if someone stays on topic, and obeys Matthew 18:15-17, I will have a conversation all day. As many here have had that experience with me. But, in obedience to Matthew 18:15-17, that’s the order in which I will give discuss/debate and give answers."

It appears to me that you would rather play the role of pastor or prophet rather than just be one of the flock seeking answers or sharing information.

That being the case, don't you think your post would be better received if you posted it as a blog rather than under the religion category?

It's not my desire to follow some unified type church service which you apparently are aiming for here, with your requirement that we all read a specific portion of scripture before we begin to read the body of your original post.

Different rules for blogs than for general topics. You can specify the type responses you would like to receive from a blog post, because that's considered to be your own property, so to speak. Not so with the regular FR topics, including religion. So if you want to play the role of preacher and start a following, the blog would be the place to do it.

For your edification.

28 posted on 07/17/2012 1:55:18 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Eastbound

We are all in different levels of faith and understanding.

Pastor is JESUS
1 PETER 2:25:
For “you were like sheep going astray,” but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

Prophets there are many, but I am just a messenger/friend of CHRIST as said in:

JOHN 15:15
15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

All believers are ministers/messengers as it’s their duty to spread the WORD to others. Whether to one or many, we are all ministering in words or actions.

Matthew 18:15-17 is just a process JESUS says for us to follow, so, as a believer, I follow. When followed, it always works; when followed.

As far as the posting in a blog instead of this religious category?? The administrator came on here already and said that I was doing nothing wrong, and my posts were fine. That ended a debate people were trying to start with me and others about not liking the fact I am posting passages.

On that note, others came on and said to the people complaining to realize that if they dont like something, then just pass it by. Which is sound advice.

Honestly, there are many posts I see here that I am not into, but I just leave people to what they want to do. If you are not into the passages or the way in which the post is arranged, then you have a choice to move on to other posts or stay commenting on the post; it’s your choice. No human can please or satisfy everyone, as we are reminded in

PROVERBS 27:20:
20 Hell and Destruction are never full;
So the eyes of man are never satisfied.

I actually dont mind the responses/replies; definitely dont mind. I like conversation. Some are great, some are insulting, some are just people trying to cause problems, some are inspiring, and so on....whatever they are they are things to learn from in some way.

You perceive very wrongly about me, but only GOD knows an individual fully; so it’s expected. From reading responses and replies, people can only assume what a person is about. Assumptions are dangerous, because they are not facts, they are usually “fictitious facts “ of someone’s imaginations that fill spaces of what they dont understand about something or someone.

As I said before you can continue the discussion here or some where else. There is no where I said I wouldnt like to receive what you were thinking or saying. Never said I wouldnt answer questions or read what you are saying. I just said the process in which I would answer and discuss ( in obedience to JESUS CHRIST).

Please read carefully my responses and what I am saying on this matter, so that you dont assume and say things that I constantly dont think or say. It saves time and illeviates the need for apologies ( as you said an apology before when realizing you said something I did not say).

As far as a “ church” I am starting? Strange to hear that one, because in that case everyone here on this site and others is trying to start some kind of a church or trying to get people to join some kind of denomination. I haven’t promoted a church building I am a part of, haven’t glorified any denominations or put down any, havent’ said one church is better to go to than another, havent’ put down any other religions, and havent given places of references to contact me more than anyone else has which is FREEREPUBLIC mail.

Because everyone here has a side and an understanding they advertise, then if I am starting a “ church”, then that would go for everyone else as well.

GOD just wakes me up daily to send out bible passages; that’s all. There is nothing else into it.

My friend, just because I am not doing things the way you want, there is no need for a conversation of labeling ( as you say I am tryng to be a pastor or prophet and start a church). But if this is the route you want to go in order to get to something, then, that’s fine. We all can learn things from any where as we learn in:

1 CORINTHIANS 1:25-31:

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.

27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;

28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,

29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.

30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption—

31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”

So, we can learn from anything, but, I pray this does not continue in this manner, because GOD is the only one to be praised.

love to you and all people in Jesus holy and precious name who lives and reigns forever and ever. Amen.

GOD BLESS US ALL,


29 posted on 07/17/2012 3:10:01 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

Elvis has left the building.


30 posted on 07/17/2012 6:20:14 PM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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