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To: agrarianlady; All
You post: “ Mormons do not believe in salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ alone.”

Yes they do - except maybe for the ‘alone’ part. There they believe in what the leader of the followers after Jesus was killed, taught.

James 2:17

“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”

And who was James, this leader? He was the blood brother of Jesus and leader of the followers until he was killed in 62AD - then another brother(may have been a 1st cousin), Simeon was the leader - it was a blood line succession.

As to the Mormons and their belief in Jesus - the hymn most often sang in their services is: “I Know My Redeemer Lives” -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcpPilfcQHQ&feature=related

They don't believe in the Trinity - a doctrine unheard of for over 300 years after Jesus. They are not the only Christian church who does not espouse the Trinity.

You will never find Mormons vilifying other peoples faith or presuming to know who does and does not believe in Jesus and The Father.

And I respectfully submit that even you, who would, it seems, esteem yourself the holder of God-like righteous judgment over others, do not have the prerequisite wisdom to so pronounce. This country is in great peril. We MUST defeat this devil's servant now in the WH. THAT is the bottom line.

You and your fellow Mormon haters are aiding and abetting the muslim who is determined to destroy our country - and will, if he is is reelected...and if he is, and he does, YOU will have helped him. How Christian is that?

153 posted on 08/11/2012 3:45:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
Unless others get on the theological flaws in your argument, I'll be back. I don't have time to adequately address them right now - a neighborhood picnic which I have to attend starts in a few minutes.

And I respectfully submit that even you, who would, it seems, esteem yourself the holder of God-like righteous judgment over others, do not have the prerequisite wisdom to so pronounce. This country is in great peril. We MUST defeat this devil's servant now in the WH. THAT is the bottom line.

It seems to me that you are rendering a "God-like righteous judgment" in pronouncing that Obama is the "devil's servant". Are you not doing exactly what you accuse others of doing? Apparently, you can render these righteous judgments but others can't? Do you esteem yourself as the holder of that ability? Do you have the prerequisite wisdom to do so?

I actually agree with your statement about Obama. However, would that not extend just as much if not more to a life-long advocate of a false gospel?

160 posted on 08/11/2012 4:05:47 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: maine-iac7

Mormonism plan of salvation:
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?locale=0&sourceId=45af9daac5d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

God’s plan of Salvation:
Jesus said: “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me.” (John 14:6)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” (Romans 10:9)


161 posted on 08/11/2012 4:12:19 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: maine-iac7

In this post when you refer to Jesus are you speaking of the lds jesus or the Biblical Jesus?
They are not the same.


165 posted on 08/11/2012 4:17:37 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: maine-iac7; agrarianlady
You will never find Mormons vilifying other peoples faith or presuming to know who does and does not believe in Jesus and The Father.

(Agrarianlady, then ask why Mormons tithe to re-produce these following Lds "scriptures" in the millions...including translating them into hundreds of languages)

Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects

Mormon Source

[Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain]
“...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth” [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead] Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938]
“In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 55,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)] Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996

170 posted on 08/11/2012 4:39:34 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: maine-iac7; agrarianlady
You will never find Mormons vilifying other peoples faith or presuming to know who does and does not believe in Jesus and The Father.

(Or, Agrarianlady, ask Maine-iac7 to show us the "love" expressed by Lds leaders toward Christians in the quotes in this article:
If Mormonism is 'anti-Christian,' then how can it be considered 'Christian?')

171 posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:34 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: maine-iac7
You will never find Mormons vilifying other peoples faith

D&C 29:21:

"And the great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall be cast down by devouring fire, according as it is spoken by the mouth of Ezekiel the prophet, who spoke of these things, which have not come to pass but surely must, as I live, for abominations shall not reign."

D&C 88:94:

"And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it."

The old church is the mother, and the protestants are the lewd daughters.

There is none in all christendom that doeth good; no, not one.'

- Apostle John Taylor, Times and Seasons, Vol.6, No.1, p.811

Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the Lord denounces... as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness.

Apostle Orson Pratt The Seer, Vol.2, No.4, p.255

1 Nephi 14:17:

And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.

----- Yea, I can see how you would think that Mormonism does not vilify any other religion, they just vilify Christianity.

173 posted on 08/11/2012 4:55:22 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: maine-iac7
They are not the only Christian church who does not espouse the Trinity.

MORMONs are NOT christians; so do NOT try to slip THIS little LIE past the unsuspecting.

235 posted on 08/11/2012 9:01:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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