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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

**Can these be the same men who are fighting a bitter political battle on a matter of conscience? The same two men who are the principal forces behind opposite sides of a landmark lawsuit? If they’re laughing and back-slapping together, the disagreement can’t be all that serious, can it? So maybe that “matter of conscience” isn’t so important after all? Apparently it wasn’t important enough to interfere with a night of fun.**

Your comments welcomed.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 4:12:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Afraid to make a comment.

I may be accused of Blasphemy.

Itis not up to me a lay person to question the actions of a Prince of the Church. At least not in this forum, but I have my own thoughts and they aren’t far from Blasphemy, believe me.


3 posted on 08/12/2012 4:22:26 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Salvation

The good Cardinal should have invited Ann Barnhardt and Michael Voris - those two would have lit the place up faster than obozo could say “choom gang!”


4 posted on 08/12/2012 4:25:02 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Salvation
Let's be brutally honest here.

What we have here in the U.S. is a startling parallel to the political/religious landscape under totalitarian regimes like China. In China, there are two different "versions" of the Catholic Church: an official government-approved church that functions as an arm of the state, and the real Catholic Church that functions underground, faces persecution, and often must carry out its religious activities in absentia through a secret hierarchy that sits in Rome or elsewhere in the world.

It really is this simple. American "Catholic" leaders like Teddy Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Sebelius have played the role of the state-sanctioned "church" even though there's nothing Catholic about them. The Catholic laity face the injustices of radical secularism on their own, with little or no support from the bishops that are supposed to be their shepherds (in fact, most of these bishops are on the same side as the minions of Satan who carry out this travesty).

And Timmy Dolan is just some jack@ss who's going to get dressed up for Halloween and make an appearance at this thing called the Al Smith Dinner to lend the whole farce some credibility in this election year.

Flame away, folks.

9 posted on 08/12/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Salvation
This poster is appalled. The analogy to eating with tax-collectors is not entirely apropos IMO. What he's doing is more analogous to sitting down with the Prince of Darkness himself.

I think they should have refrained from inviting either of the presidential candidates. By inviting them, a "business as usual" message is being conveyed. This at a time when we're probably headed back to the Catacombs. Just my $.02.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

15 posted on 08/12/2012 4:58:45 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the post/ping, Salvation. It makes me want to puke...on all of them. Collective vs. individual BUMP!


32 posted on 08/12/2012 6:56:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Salvation

I signed the petition respectfully asking the Cardinal to disinvite obama. If Cardinal O’Connor could respectfully not allow Clinton to attend, why is obama, who is a considerably more anti-Catholic president, being allowed to attend? Especially given the lawsuit. When numerous dioceses are in a lawsuit versus a sitting president, a celebratory dinner with the other party in the lawsuit as an honored guest seems highly irregular. Also, why the weasel words on the diocesan website about this? This seems to have a contradiction between words and actions, and seems to invite thoughts of scandal to the faithful.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 7:23:08 PM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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What bothers me is that the Cardinal seems oblivious to objections. He ought not to engage in political negotiations, because in this area he is a boy among men.


34 posted on 08/12/2012 8:19:16 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Would anybody have been in favor of having Church leaders invite Adolph Hitler to put philosophical differences aside for a day, and collegially rub elbows with them while sharing a drink or two, and a friendly, fraternal meal together?

The demoncrap party we have today is one of the main forces behind the evil, murderous abortion frenzy we are all currently witnessing, and B.O. is their current leader. They follow disgustingly warped philosophies which are eerily similar in many ways to that of the Nazis, and the B.O./demoncrap-backed abortionists have already brutally murdered many more human beings than the entire Nazi party did in their whole history (and they continue to add to this horrendously immoral carnage every single day).

Today's baby-killing demoncrap party led by B.O. essentially IS today's Nazi party. We should not invite this evil man to share a friendly meal with us. Instead we should tell him to "get thee behind us, Satan, and stay the hell behind us!", and do everything possible to get him voted out of office.

Not long ago, U.S. Church leaders told Harry Reid that we disagree with him on some things (like that pesky abortion issue), but that we agree with him on others, like his scofflaw "dream act" plans. I am completely convinced that that kind of naive nonsense helped get dirty Harry Reid reelected, and allows him now to continue to block every single moral law that somehow manages to make it through the House of Representatives to the Senate these days, causing untold harm to the USA and the Church. It is NOT smart to rub elbows with Nazis or demoncraps like Harry Reid or B.O., and our Church leaders in this country should learn that quickly, before it is too late.

35 posted on 08/12/2012 9:04:33 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("You will know the truth and the truth will set you free." - John 8:32)
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