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Why Did the Jews Reject Christianity?
The Yeshiva.net ^ | 8/1/2010 | Rabbi Joseph Isaac Jacobson

Posted on 08/12/2012 9:20:00 PM PDT by Phinneous

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To: sf4dubya

“Thank you for this mitzvah.”

Hey thats great! Thanks...


301 posted on 08/14/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: spunkets

“The prophecy said she will call His name Immanuel, not name Him Immanuel. “

What? It could not be more clear. She is naming him Immanuel. v’karah And (to call, name, give name to, call by) shemo (name) Immanu ‘el.

Who is doing the naming here? the young woman, his mother.

Matthew is wrong. He changes the text to read THEY. In order to avoid the unpleasant fact that Mary did not name him that. You can spin it if you want, but it is clear.

Furthermore, the whole point of the passage is that the sign is not a virgin birth but the age of the child. I posted it earlier.


302 posted on 08/14/2012 9:04:38 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960
"What?

Yes.

" It could not be more clear. She is naming him Immanuel. v’karah And (to call, name, give name to, call by) shemo (name) Immanu ‘el.

To call the name Immanuel. Name the name Immanuel. Give name to Immanuel. Call by the name Immanuel. Note they would never give Him the name "God with us", they'd be accused of blasphemy. Who is they? They are Mary and Jesus. Mary called Him that, but Joseph is the one who gave Him the name Jesus.

"Matthew is wrong. He changes the text to read THEY. In order to avoid the unpleasant fact that Mary did not name him that. You can spin it if you want, but it is clear."

They are the parents. They can do as they see fit and call their child as above and other folks can take their lead.

Re: “Jesus Christ is literally God with us.”

"Right. Come on...He didnt know the hour of his return...he prayed to himself in the garden? Talked to himself on the cross?

These are things done by a man whose person is a Trinity. He is one person, but lives in 2 worlds. One person in spirit instantiated by the machinery that provides an instantiation of that person in each world. As a man, He was to pray to the Father and was taught by the Father. There were things He didn't know, since He wasn't taught them. There is nothing hard to understand about that. Folks aren't born educated. The spirit in this world is a bijection and onto the machinery that provides the functions of a sentient rational being in eternity, not the other way around. Immortal does not choose to become mortal.

"He lied to the high priest about teaching nothing in secret?"

BY the time He said that, He had taught everything He would teach in public.

"He was wrong about JTB being Elijah.."

Matthew 11:14 "And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come."

,i>"he called a gentile woman and her people dogs..."

I doubt it. Where?

"he falsely prophecised his return before they all died...

They're not dead.

"Twice he dissed his own mortal mother..."

No.

"He said equality with G-d was something that could not be grasped...

No.

"He cursed a fig tree for no reason when it wasnt even the right season...

That's terrible!

"he took a farmer herd of pigs and killed them without compensation..."

Pigs are penned, not herded. Those were wild pigs and the Jews didn't farm, or eat them.

"he didnt even bother to write ONE word of his own...when G-d wrote the ten commandments in STONE? Jsus cant even write?

John 8:5-8, "In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

"uhhh yeah...this is NOT G-d with us. A false prophet and another failed messiah."

Who would God send to teach who He was? Would He send a man, a prophet, pr would He show up in person? Who would God choose to be His right hand man other than Himself?

Two things are written. Moses said the above woman was to be killed according to how much she displeased God by her act(s). Jesus forgave her and did not toss any stones. These are the things that need to be examined in order to know who God is. The values and morals God holds are the things that are to be examined. Accordingly, in Matt 12:31,32 Jesus said, "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

"Furthermore, the whole point of the passage is that the sign is not a virgin birth but the age of the child. I posted it earlier."

The sign was the explicit presence of and teaching by God Himself, not just some man claiming to be His representative.

303 posted on 08/14/2012 1:21:26 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: allmendream

A lot of bad ideas came out of Germany and they didn’t start or end with Luther. At the same time a lot of good came out of Germany and branding a country or its people isn’t accurate. Culture matters, but it cuts both ways.


304 posted on 04/23/2013 2:04:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I didn’t say anything about Germany specifically. I said Luther proposed a Final Solution that was much like that of his intellectual heirs. Unfortunately such garbage crosses cultural and national borders. I lived in Germany for over a year. Nice place. Nice people. I am of some German descent and have a German surname. All American culturally and with my allegiance.


305 posted on 04/23/2013 5:30:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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