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To: SeekAndFind
Influential Preachers?

Several thoughts:

1. Influential has nothing to do with sound doctrine.

2. Billy Graham, is he a preacher or an evangelist? IMHO a preacher has a flock and tends to them. He has done much to spread the Word, but did he minister to a local body?

3. Rick Warren is a neo-Gnostic. Do we really want to include him?

4. John Stott was just phenomenal.

5. Bill Hybels has done more to destroy the local church and move us towards an model where you can hide in plain sight. A survey conducted in his church in which a majority of memebers said they wanted more doctrine. His reply was they need to be taught to be self-feeders. Not taught, not feed by the pastor.

6. Tim Keller pastors a megachurch, but is committed to planting churches. He is sound in the pulpit and his books are bestsellers. I have worshiped at Redeemer several times. My heresy radar never went off. I think he should be higher than 25, maybe in the top 10.

7. Where the heck is R.C. Sproul? He is one of the drivers of the resurgence of Reformed Doctrine in the US.

8. Also where is James Montgomery Boice and Donald Grey Barnhouse? Their influence spread way beyond 10th Pres in Philadelphia.

11 posted on 09/18/2012 7:49:22 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Gamecock

RE: John Stott was just phenomenal.

John Stott ( RIP ) during the later days of his ministry, started to believe in Annihilationism.

For those who don’t know what this means, this is the belief that condemned unbelievers will be annihilated, or destroyed after death, instead of spending an eternity of punishment in hell.

Annihilationists believe the doctrine of endless suffering in hell contradicts the character of a loving God and is inconsistent with God’s final victory over sin. They also argue that in some Bible passages, “eternal” does not refer to the process of punishment but the result.

Annihilationists contend that God grants immortality to the soul and can take it away through destruction.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Gamecock

RE: Where the heck is R.C. Sproul? He is one of the drivers of the resurgence of Reformed Doctrine in the US.

I have always been an admirer of R.C. Sproul (not to say I always agree with him ).

Is there a difference between lecturing/teaching and preaching a sermon?

Sproul is a great teacher, I just don’t know if we have to make a distinction between the two (i.e. preaching vs teaching ).


15 posted on 09/18/2012 7:54:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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