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To: billflax

America was NOT founded as a Christian nation.

A true Christian nation would not have allowed false gods to be worshipped in it’s society.

Islam, Buddhism and satanism would have been banned outright.


6 posted on 09/25/2012 7:31:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: 353FMG
Christian missionaries regularly pushed back the boundaries between barbarism and civilization and lived side by side with pagans of all sorts in the process.

Back when King Philippe I of Spain was favoring the Jesuits (I belive that's the order) as the bearers of Christianity to the Indians the chief Cardinal of Spain prevailed on him to allow all the orders in Europe to send missionaries to the New World ~ else he promised schism with Rome ~ meaning the same sort of Protestant/Catholic dispute as they had in France.

That squared away the old guy for a while, at least on that issue, and the settlement of America proceded with input from virtually every nation ~

Every part of America had been the subject of intense lobbying by Christian institutions long before the Founders managed to get here.

This was the GREAT PRIZE OF ALL HISTORY ~ a whole new world!

17 posted on 09/25/2012 7:45:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 353FMG

Technically, freedom of religion in the colonies only applied to Christianity as all other “comparative religions” were considered pagan or false religions.

This was especially true of British, Scottish, French, Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Swiss, and Russian settlers.

Judaism was also considered consistent with Christianity as the root of Christianity. Islam was not in consideration except as a false belief system.

Just study Church History and a globe and follow the growth of freedom in the West.


19 posted on 09/25/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: 353FMG

I have records of my ancestors from the 1600’s where my (many,many removed) great grandfather’s sister married a quaker. She along with him were banished and they moved to Rhode Island.

Here is an excerpt from a book written about the intolerance they held towards other faiths:

” Here hath arriyed amosgst us several persons professing
themselves Quakers, fit instruments to propagate the kingdom of Satan. For the securing of ourselves and our neighbours from such pests, we have imprisoned them, until they be des-patched away to the place from whence they came,” &c. They then request that certain laws may be propounded by the Commissioners to the General Court of each of the United Colonies. In pursuance of this impulse, and ^’acknowledging the Godly care and zeal of the gentlemen of Massachusetts,” the Commissioners at their meeting in Boston 1657, began with recommending to the Government of Rhode Island, “ that means be taken to banish the Quakers, be.” Capt. James Cudworth of Scituate, one of the Commissioners, refused to subscribe to this instrument, and from this time suffered much persecution himself, (see life of Cudworth In Family Sketches).

The reply of the Government of Rhode Island is to be admired for its moderation and discretion. We give a brief extract, viz.

” We have no law amongst us, whereby to punish any for only
declaring their minds concerning the things and ways of God. We are informed that they begin to loathe this place, for that they are not opposed by the civil authority, but with all patience and meekness are suffered to say over dieir pretended revelations,” &c. At their meeting in Boston 1658, the Commissioners addressed a circular to the Government of all the United Colonies, propounding laws against the Quakers, be. e. g. ‘’that after due conviction diat either he or she is of that cursed sect of hereticks, they be banished under pain of severe corporal punishment, and if they return again, then to be punished accordingly, and banished under pain of death : and if afterwards they shall yet presume to come again, then to be put to death as aforesaid, except they do then and there plainly and publickly renounce their said cursed opinions and develish
tenets.” The General Court of Massachusetts followed out
this recommendation to its greatest extent:* but Plymouth

* The preamble of the law of MatsachuseUa, in 1668, is as follows :
“ Whereas there is a pernicious sect commonly called Quakers lately risen, who by word and writing have published and maintained many dangerous and horrid tenets, and do take upon themselves to change and alter the received laudable customs of our Nation, in giving civil respect to equals or reverence to superiors, whose actions tend to undermine the authority of civil government, and also to destroy the order of the churches, by denying
aU established forms of worship, and by withdrawing from the orderly assemblies allowed and approved by all orthodox professors of the truth, Sdc, therefore ordered, that if any person or persons of the cursed sect of the Quakers shall be apprehended, ^c. upon trial and conviction they shall be banished on pain of death.”

I’d say they clearly established what faith this country was built upon. These were the men of Kent from Scituate, MA.


43 posted on 09/25/2012 9:16:43 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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