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Megachuch pastor Joel Osteen dodges CNN questions on homosexuality
Life Site News ^ | September 26, 2012 | SUSANNA ROSE

Posted on 09/27/2012 2:54:55 PM PDT by NYer

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To: wideawake; NYer

Joel Osteen says homosexuality is not God’s best for man

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/joel.osteen.says.homosexuality.is.not.gods.best.for.man/27428.htm


21 posted on 09/27/2012 4:23:05 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: NYer
I actually like the guy, but I agree with just about everyone here that he missed a perfect chance to point people to the cross. He had to know they would ask this question so he ought to have thought through his answer ahead of time.

there’s a bunch of people who clearly are gay who are in your church,” she continued. “You’re calling them sinners

He could easily have told her he had a whole church full of sinners, saved by grace, saved by the blood of Christ, and that when she was ready she would be likewise welcome to join them at the altar.

22 posted on 09/27/2012 4:32:04 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
He could easily have told her he had a whole church full of sinners

Paul used the past tense in 1 Cor. 6. "...And such WERE some of you." (Emphasis mine.)
23 posted on 09/27/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: GeronL
First Church of Self-Esteem?

Umpteenth. Not the First Church of Pass-the Plate either, but he's really stellar at it.

24 posted on 09/27/2012 5:00:07 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: fwdude

Well, he does seem to be a good motivational speaker, or at least a successful one. But he is supposed to be a pastor, ammirite?


25 posted on 09/27/2012 5:04:48 PM PDT by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: NYer

Revelation 22:13-15

(13) I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.

(14) Blessed are they who do His commandments, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and they may enter in by the gates into the city.

(15) But outside are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and makes a lie.

In other words, anyone who practices sexual immorality, as God defines it, fails to qualify for eternal life. That is what Jesus, the Author of life, dictated to John to record here.


26 posted on 09/27/2012 5:17:51 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: NYer

Olsteen had an epiphany and realized homosexuals contribute to his church too.


27 posted on 09/27/2012 5:25:14 PM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: SVTCobra03
I'm glad you covered that false statement.

Thank you.

28 posted on 09/27/2012 5:53:52 PM PDT by ducttape45
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I've seen this one before:

Osteen was then asked by panelist and gay rights activist Richard Socarides whether he had chosen to be heterosexual.

The answer is: No. Neither does the person with a cancer choose choose it. Both are disorders; neither by itself is a sin.

29 posted on 09/27/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

To clarify: Both cancer and homosexuality are disorders; neither by itself is a sin.


30 posted on 09/27/2012 6:51:23 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Alex Murphy; DocRock; del4hope; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; ...
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31 posted on 09/27/2012 7:01:11 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Alex Murphy
I think part of my, if you want to call it success, I’ve stayed in my lane and my lane is lifting people’s spirits and there are issues that good, Bible-believing people see on both sides of the fence.

Jesus did not have to die on the Cross to make one thing Osteen says on stage true. In fact, had Jesus proclaimed Osteens message he would have died of old age. < /sarc>

Not one Christian has been martyred for holding to anything Osteen holds too.

32 posted on 09/27/2012 7:10:27 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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““You’re calling them sinners. I mean, that is the opposite of uplifting, I would think.” “

Sinners in a church? Really? When was that allowed? What a concept....

33 posted on 09/27/2012 7:12:19 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Alex Murphy; NYer
2. While I believe Osteen preaches a fundamentally sound gospel...

Like when he denied the exclusivity of Christ on Larry King?

he is wise not to give answers which only aid his enemies.

I thought pastors are called to preach the word in season and out. In all of Scripture where is anyone commended for not speaking God's word?

Wait! I know! Daniel. Noooo. He was thrown in a furnace and a Lion's Den.

Oh! Stephan. No. He was stoned.

Ummm, Paul? Nope.

The time is coming where we will face serious persecution. Osteens message of self-worship will then be exposed for what it is, False Christianity.

34 posted on 09/27/2012 7:21:27 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Gamecock; Responsibility2nd; Alex Murphy
he is wise not to give answers which only aid his enemies.

Scripture very plainly says that the beginning of wisdom is NOT to fear the enemies of God, for He did not give us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and a sound mind. To fear the LORD is wisdom.

As usual, Osteen got it wrong.

35 posted on 09/28/2012 5:08:06 AM PDT by lupie
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I can’t think of a time that Osteen has gotten it right. I have listened to him dozens of times and I have never heard him speak of faith in Christ. He just wretches snippets of scripture out of context to fit his point.

As far as I’m concerned he isn’t even a particularly good motivational speaker.


36 posted on 09/28/2012 6:14:24 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Gamecock

and he looks like Martin Short.


37 posted on 09/28/2012 6:49:30 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Gamecock

“Wait! I know! Daniel. Noooo. He was thrown in a furnace and a Lion’s Den.” UHH NO, Danial was the one thrown into the Lion’s Den-His 3 friends were thrown into the Fiery Furnace(7x hotter than before).


38 posted on 09/28/2012 6:50:12 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: fwdude

Other than that, he’s dumber than a bucket of rocks.

I would not say he is dumber than a bucket of rocks. He is business savy and at least believes Homosexuality is an abomination. He is just not one of those screamer types. He uses the word to uplift and get people to understand God and believe in Jesus Christ. Although I am Catholic, he seems like a good person (although he should be Catholic!)


39 posted on 09/28/2012 7:08:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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He uses the word to uplift and get people to understand God and believe in Jesus Christ. Although I am Catholic, he seems like a good person (although he should be Catholic!)

"Gets people to understand God and believe in Jesus Christ"? How exactly is he doing that? Osteen's theology runs about a millimeter deep.

Related thread:
Joel Olsteen Joins With Catholics To Convert Confused Protestants

40 posted on 09/28/2012 8:27:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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