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To: Mr Rogers; wagglebee
Does a condom kill anyone? Yes, but not in a manner that is consistent with our discussion on the illusion of the control of life.

John Calvin is reported to have written: "For this is to extinguish the hope of the race and to kill before he is born the hoped-for offspring."

John Wesley and Martin Luther are in agreement with Calvin on that point.

For me, though, the issue is more about the illusion that we are in charge of life and death, that we are our own masters of the universe, masters of our own destiny and the destiny of others.

I think that is a shameful notion, and I think it is a notion that is inherent in the belief that we are in charge of the beginning of life.

54 posted on 10/06/2012 10:58:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Thank you for this post.

You have expressed so well the Biblical perspective of who is the author and upholder of life.


56 posted on 10/06/2012 11:29:35 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: xzins

**I think that is a shameful notion, and I think it is a notion that is inherent in the belief that we are in charge of the beginning of life.**

Thank you for your views. They concur with those of the Catholic Church. God is in control and God is pro-life. God does not want a future baby to dry up in a condom.


57 posted on 10/06/2012 11:32:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: xzins

**I think that is a shameful notion, and I think it is a notion that is inherent in the belief that we are in charge of the beginning of life.**

Thank you for your views. They concur with those of the Catholic Church. God is in control and God is pro-life. God does not want the possibility of a future baby to dry up in a condom.


58 posted on 10/06/2012 11:33:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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