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US Bishops to Consider Document on Preaching
Catholic Culture ^ | 10/11/12

Posted on 10/11/2012 7:03:23 AM PDT by marshmallow

During its annual fall meeting, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops will discuss whether to approve a document entitled “Preaching the Mystery of Faith: The Sunday Homily.”

“The ultimate goal of proclaiming the Gospel is to lead people into a loving and intimate relationship with the Lord, a relationship that forms the character of their persons and guides them in living out their faith,” states the draft document, which was prepared by a committee chaired by Archbishop Robert Carlson of St. Louis. “The homilist should strive to live a life of holiness” and “see the world through biblical eyes.”

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1 posted on 10/11/2012 7:03:27 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

This has nothing to do with this thread but could someone who is a Catholic explain to me why your Pope is preaching in arabic?
I am just not getting that.


2 posted on 10/11/2012 7:26:58 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: marshmallow
"Consider a document." Duh. Duh me with a spoon. Why don't they just

PREACH IT!

One of our deacons has just come out with 2 great sermons (at each of the 3 Sunday Masses for 2 weeks, that makes 6 times) on why Catholics consider Marriage Sacred and this is why we are against fornication, contraception, pornography, homosexuality, adultery divorce/remarriage.

I sent him a fan email, asked for a copy of the homily, and email-blasted it to everybody in the parish.

There.

3 posted on 10/11/2012 7:27:56 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Te Deum laudamus.)
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To: marshmallow

Just have them visit some evangelical churches.


4 posted on 10/11/2012 7:32:00 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: svcw
(1) For the benefit of 10 million Arabic-speaking Christians.

(2)For the benefit of 1 billion Arabic-speaking* non-Christians who need to hear about Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior of the World.

(*May speak Pashtun, Syriac or Tagalog at home, but their prayer-language is Arabic, anyway)

5 posted on 10/11/2012 7:33:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Te Deum laudamus. Inshallah.)
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To: firebrand

Uh huh.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 7:53:38 AM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: svcw
could someone who is a Catholic explain to me why your Pope is preaching in arabic?

A key doctrine of Vatican II was that the Gospel should be proclaimed to the people in their own native languages. A very practical outlook frankly. So if Pope Benedict was in an Arab country at the time it would be consistent for him to deliver remarks in Arabic.

That being said, there has always been a hard-core cadre that believes Vatican II was wrong, and that the Mass and all related preaching should be done in Latin. And they hold a lot of sway at present. They rewrote the liturgy in the New Roman Missile as a jumbled mess of Middle English and Latin, virtually indecipherable to the modern speaker of English. So ironically I think Pope Benedict's remarks in Latin were probably far more clear to that audience than the typical Liturgy in America is today.


7 posted on 10/11/2012 7:58:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marshmallow

With near-universal literacy and instant access to information, what need is there for preaching?


8 posted on 10/11/2012 8:38:14 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Mrs. Don-o

Thanks.
I just did not know the reason, makes sense though, don’t know why I hadn’t thought of it.
My brother travels around the world preaching/teaching/planting (mostly South Africa, Indonesia, and formerly East Germany) he just works with the local churches and the pastor translates.
So it would make sense if he knew the languages to use them.


9 posted on 10/11/2012 8:44:25 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
That being said, there has always been a hard-core cadre that believes Vatican II was wrong, and that the Mass and all related preaching should be done in Latin. And they hold a lot of sway at present. They rewrote the liturgy in the New Roman Missile as a jumbled mess of Middle English and Latin, virtually indecipherable to the modern speaker of English. So ironically I think Pope Benedict's remarks in Latin were probably far more clear to that audience than the typical Liturgy in America is today.

Whoa... while your explanation about the Pope preaching in Arabic was spot-on, you messed this up entirely.

First, very few people within the Church would assert that "Vatican II was wrong". Misinterpreted? Certainly. Overreaching and lacking prudence? Possibly. "Wrong"? Only a small few, like the SSPX, who are in irregular communion with the Church, if at all.

Nobody is advocating that "all related preaching" should be in Latin. Even the hard-core traditionalists preach in vernacular, and will re-read the Epistle and Gospel in the vernacular after they have been read in Latin (when they don't, people have the text in their hand missals anyways).

The traditionalists weren't the ones who "rewrote the liturgy" -- the traditionalists would be content to dump the post-Vatican II Missal entirely. The new translation was at the hands of a group of priests and bishops from various Anglophone countries, following the directions of the 2001 instruction Liturgiam Authenticam.

The "new translation" of the Missal is hardly the "jumbled mess of Middle English and Latin" that you claim... most people have adjusted perfectly fine.

By comparison, people claimed to understand the old translation... but all they understood was a paraphrase, which in many cases bore little similarity with the Latin original.

10 posted on 10/11/2012 8:54:23 AM PDT by GCC Catholic
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To: marshmallow

Why don’t the U. S. Bishops just go back to the original GIRM on the Vatican site?

Everything with the Mass is covered.

And get rid of the altar girls. The only thing mentioned in the GIRM is acolytes!


11 posted on 10/11/2012 9:01:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: svcw

Even Paul went to Arabia.

“Go out to the whole world and preach the good news, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”


12 posted on 10/11/2012 9:02:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: svcw
why your Pope is preaching in arabic?

Why shouldn't he preach in the native language spoken by Christians throughout the Near East? I am just not getting why that is a problem.

13 posted on 10/11/2012 9:04:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
the New Roman Missile

You have me thinking of a guided, rocket propelled munition designed by Italians ...

Has Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta started expanding its business line?

14 posted on 10/11/2012 9:08:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Salvation
And get rid of the altar girls. The only thing mentioned in the GIRM is acolytes!

I remain convinced this is one of the things holding back vocations to the priesthood.

In addition to getting rid of altar girls, the Bishops need to be faithful to Ministeria Quaedam by instituting adult men as Lectors and Acolytes. At present, only those preparing for diaconate and/or priesthood are instituted -- in direct opposition to Paul VI's intention of opening these ministries to laymen in general.

15 posted on 10/11/2012 9:12:05 AM PDT by GCC Catholic
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To: ArrogantBustard; Salvation

Se my post #9


16 posted on 10/11/2012 9:14:00 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
Right.

For most of our clerics, speaking multiple languages is a requirement of the vocation. This has less visibility in these United States than elsewhere; much more visibility in the third world and among the Vatican bureaucracy. Your brother would do well to learn as much as possible the language of the people to whom he ministers (if he doesn't already).

17 posted on 10/11/2012 9:20:24 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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