11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome

stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

[Natural Law]

"God persevered HIS own Word."

Of course He does and He uses the Catholic Church to do it.

Peace be with you

[terycarl]

...only Catholics existed as Christians then

in the year 256...if you were a Christian and not a Catholic, what were you???

[Natural Law]

"So instead of it being *God breathed* Catholicism teaches that it's simply a matter of transcribing *oral tradition*."

The Tradition IS God breathed.

"2 Timothy 3:14-16"

You do know St. Paul was referring to the Septuagint, don't you.

[terycarl]

Hmmmm, excellent points! How many Pope Paul's were there? Maybe they had a clue and chose that name because they knew that Paul should have been the first pope. LOL subtly sticking it to their own belief system....heh

lots of Pope Pauls....but only 1 Pope Peter...he has a special place...numero uno!

[Syncro]

Yes, the Pharisetical scriptures speak directly to the Catholic belief system.

[Natural Law]

"Pure sophistry.

I am not interested in suffering through another of your "if you don't believe me just ask me" posts replete with links to your earlier masterpieces. Frankly they are unreliable and not worth the time spent.

[Syncro]

He used the Catholic church to bring you Christianity

No he didn't.

Christianity was brought to me DIRECTLY from Jesus through the Holy Spirit.

If YOU git your Christianity from the Catholic church, there is a simple prayer that can bring you into the Kingdom of God and give you a born again personal relationship with Jesus.

Or you can pray to Mary for salvation, as your popes say that will work. Mary can save you and you can pray to her according to your Popes.

Leo and Pius for starters, look it up.

Or search this thread for the quotes directly from Catholic doctrine.

[daniel1212]

That is neither repentance or an apology.

[Tennessee Nana]

How could sex inside of marriage be a sin ???

I thought marriage was a sacrament of the Catholic Church ???

But whether or not it is God recommends sex and invented the practice...

and then theres this

“Haven’t you read the Scriptures?” Jesus replied. “They record that from the beginning ‘God made them male and female.’?” And He said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ The LORD Jesus Christ, Matthew 19:5

and this

The husband should fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should fulfill her husband’s needs. Paul, 1 Corinthians 7:3

and this

The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Paul, 1 Corinthians 7:4

and this

Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control. Paul, 1 Corinthians 7:5

[Natural Law]

"That is neither repentance or an apology."

I'm sorry I read your post and promise never to do it again.

[Syncro]

Yup, the hierarchy of Catholicism makes Catholics radioactive.

Kinda sad...

[terycarl]

Attention Casual Observer... Has it become apparent to you yet as to WHY Catholics become MORMONism's harvest field?

since protestanism is already in a state of error, the Catholic church is the logical target because only that church is in truth, without error, or possibllity of error....

[Syncro]

You posted that as if they were my words.

I am a Christian, NOT a Catholic!

Those were your words, not mine.

**only Catholics existed as Christians then**

Be more careful with what you attribute to me.

Christian posters, don't be decieved by this leftist tactic.

[terycarl]

There will be a price to pay for those who follow the RCC and it will be for eternity.

thanks for the warning but I'll take my chances that a 2,000 year old church is right and that you are wrong.

[metmom]

The Tradition IS God breathed.

FOTFLOL!!!!

Only in the minds of it's deluded creators.

[metmom]

The Tradition IS God breathed.

The problem with that is that there are tons of groups claiming extra-Biblical revelation and THEY also claim to have it from God but it contradicts another groups claimed extra-Biblical revelation. So who's right?

Each group says *WE are because we said so.*

And each group makes that claim on it's own self-declared authority.

Don't work because they can't all be right.

So we're back to square one where Scripture is the only unchanging standard of truth by which to measure everything else.

[count-your-change]

“This is simply argument by assertion. The Tradition-based Orthodox contrary view of Peter is dismissed as are all others, based upon Rome's high opinion of herself, not the merits of the case.”

If one claims they are speaking infallible truth then no argument contrary can be seriously considered nor examined with the possibility of a change of opinion. It follows therefore that objections to this so called “infallible truth” can only be error, sincere or not, no matter what evidence from any source, Catholic or not. Infallible is infallible!

From this flows the justification for any act for actions flow from belief. And the belief is that “the Church” is error free and that any errors were simply the result of fallible men being fallible men.

Forgotten is Jesus’ words to fallible men, ‘The kingdom will be taken from you and given to a nation producing its fruits’.

[Natural Law]

"The problem with that is that there are tons of groups claiming extra-Biblical revelation..."

I'm not talking about nor am I concerned with "tons" of divergent and false denominations. I am only concerned with the one, holy Catholic and Apostolic Church which has the continuity of Apostolic succession from the first Pentecost until today.

Peace be with you

[CynicalBear]

>>thanks for the warning but I'll take my chances that a 2,000 year old church is right and that you are wrong.<<

I don’t want to “take my chances”. I rely on the words of Christ and His assurance that my salvation is secure.

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Romans 8:38-39 say, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Nothing can separate a child of God from their Father.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

2 Corinthians 1:22 and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

2 Corinthians 5:5 He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

See, we have a guarantee. We don’t need to “take our chances”. All Catholics need to do is renounce the RCC teaching and turn to Christ.

[Syncro]

So... LOL, good response, backing away. Can't blame you as scripture is sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit--Hebrews 4-12

I noticed you posted that as if it was all quoted from Daniel.

Freud would say that's what he should have posted to you.

I think his suggestion should be pondered prayerfully Natural Law.

[It appears] You have once more been exposed as making false charges, and rather than engage in more sophistry and damage control, just repent and apologize.

Many of us have noticed that.