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To: cuban leaf

I agree with you. If you look in Scripture, you see that Daniel was told to seal the book, that the events would be recognized at the time of their unfolding, which is what I see happening today. If you look at the beast empires, which all surrounded Israel then, and still do, and look at their Biblical names, looking at who they were them and now, you see that all 10 nations are alive and well. They all have one purpose, to drive Israel into the Med. and to kill off every singe Jew worldwide, to include those grafted into God’s family, the Christians. Most people are totally unprepared. They read books about the Bible, and NOT the Bible. To all these, I say you’d better get back into The Word and prepare. You have been deceived by well-meaning, but still basically wrong teachers, who are leading millions into a rude awakening that will destroy their faith, not enforce it. Go to youtube and listen to Walid Shoebat. We lived in Turkey for 6 years, so I trust what he has to say. Having lived there and visited Israel 4 times, I feel that we have an American view of the Bible that is way off and needs grounding in the Biblical lands so that we understand the stories of the Bible and God’s purposes for including them in canon. Our American Bibles, with their commentaries tend to bring up children of those commentators, and they have a bias against anything that doesn’t go along with the notes their Bible uses. This is destructive, and why I agree totally with Kay Arthur. We don’t need anybody else’s notes to understand Scripture. All we need is to study and ask God for His wisdom in understanding it.

Think of the Christians enduring persecution in muslim lands now. They are nearing extinction! Think of the fact that 3 horns will be taken down of the 10, and you see that possibly unfolding in the ME today. All the 10 countries are in the ME. None in the EU, except Turkey, whom I expect to leave at any time now. Turkey is making its way to become the Caliphate again. They are quite successful, I would say..


21 posted on 02/12/2013 9:33:57 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

Two things:

1. little of your post would have made sense in 1947, and I think you know what I’m driving at.
2. The “Americaninzation” of Christianity frustrates me as well. It is not about Americans. It is about Christians. And, not to sound too nutty, I don’t think American flags belong in churches. They are not secular organizations. I’m seeing little in the NT about patriotism. The bible is about two things, the second of which is a subset of the first: Man’s relationship with his Creator and man’s relationship with his fellow man.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 9:48:43 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Shery

Consider that prophetic Israel might not be the Old Israel, just like prophetic sodom is not the old sodom, prophetic bablyon is not the old babylon, prophetic Egypt is not the old egypt.

Prophetic Jerusalem is a land of unwalled villages. In fact there are many marks of prophetic Israel which cannot fit old Jerusalem. Also, Jesus very clearly indicated the kingdom was taken from them, and the would NEVER produce fruit again.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 11:00:20 AM PST by EyeSalveRich (fulfilled)
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