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What This Protestant Pastor Would Like to See in the New Pope
Religion Forum, FR | 11 Mar 13 | Xzins

Posted on 03/11/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 03/11/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by xzins
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I suppose a Pope that will launch a new CRUSADE against the muzzies is too much to hope for?
2 posted on 03/11/2013 11:36:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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Don’t we already have this, as much as possible, with recognition of trinitarian baptism, after Vat II?


3 posted on 03/11/2013 11:41:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

He could call on the princes again, but I’m afraid they’re no longer there.


4 posted on 03/11/2013 11:43:10 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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‘that we all be one’ is a great goal.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 11:45:42 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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Xzins, the door is open for unity. :) If one believes that all christians ought to be unified, then it is left to one’s conscience to decide.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 11:46:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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oh, can’t wait to get your take on this one....busy now...but will bookmark.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 11:48:02 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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I’d like to see a Pope that follows the truth fiercely enough to get rid of the homos/pedophiles, instead of rotating them around in good standing.

If this doesn’t happen, the lamp grows dimmer.


8 posted on 03/11/2013 11:50:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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I do think it would be of great value for there to be movement in the direction of Orthodox unity. Something like a permanent ‘Diet’, an assembly of clergy with several purposes: cultural exchange, mutual support of oppressed Orthodox Christians around the world, and unanimous consensus opinions (difficult, but not impossible).

Ecumenism with Protestants would be both tricky and limited, however, as it would demand they embrace the unified Orthodox consensus, which few of them would agree to.


9 posted on 03/11/2013 11:53:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Gather At The River
10 posted on 03/11/2013 12:01:09 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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I bet the Cardinals do not count his vote.


11 posted on 03/11/2013 12:02:05 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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The Pope lost control of the Crusades in the Middle Ages, the Fourth Crusade being a major example.

Even so, who will answer the call? Are Protestants going to recognize the Pope’s authority to do such?

Are Catholics going to risk breaking the law of their states by organizing in a military manner outside their control?

Things like the Inquisition and Crusades are defensive tools that went out the window when Christendom was abolished in favor of secular nation-states.


12 posted on 03/11/2013 12:02:53 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Believers in Jesus Christ care about John 17 unity.


14 posted on 03/11/2013 12:09:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


15 posted on 03/11/2013 12:12:00 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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Those ladies can really sing.

I agree: waters of forgiveness.


17 posted on 03/11/2013 12:23:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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I think that’s probably what we all want!

Well, among other things...the next Pope has got his work cut out for him. I only hope that gets more support from the rest of the Church than did BXVI. Poor Benedict; the entrenched powers hated him because he was shining a light on their behavior.


18 posted on 03/11/2013 12:30:23 PM PDT by livius
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"I cannot escape that Jesus is saying that when the world sees the unity of Christians it will know that He was sent by the Father, and that the Father loves both the Son and the followers of the Son. This is seen so clearly in the reverse: when they see discord, disunity, disarray, then it easy for the world to dismiss us, the Father, and the Son. They say, "Those people are always fighting each other; who wants to be a part of that?"

This is a profound statement, xzins, and I love you for posting it.

To me, it's an if...then statement. Just like:

"If we forgive those who trespass against you, then Our Father will forgive us our trespasses",

He also says:

If the Church is in unity, then the world will know that You (the Father) sent Me."

That's how the Christians were defined in the beginning: "See these Christians, how they love one another."

The unity of Christians is either a "picture" of the unity of the Trinity, or, disunified, we are a "picture" of something else. Something menacing, disturbing, repellent and ugly.

Just a long way of saying... YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT THAT!

19 posted on 03/11/2013 12:37:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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xzins, I pray you get your wish. I would much prefer to see the acceptance and unity of coreligionists than the increasing acceptance of islam which is anti-christian from its core.


20 posted on 03/11/2013 12:40:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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