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1 posted on 03/11/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by xzins
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I suppose a Pope that will launch a new CRUSADE against the muzzies is too much to hope for?
2 posted on 03/11/2013 11:36:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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Don’t we already have this, as much as possible, with recognition of trinitarian baptism, after Vat II?


3 posted on 03/11/2013 11:41:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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‘that we all be one’ is a great goal.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 11:45:42 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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Xzins, the door is open for unity. :) If one believes that all christians ought to be unified, then it is left to one’s conscience to decide.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 11:46:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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oh, can’t wait to get your take on this one....busy now...but will bookmark.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 11:48:02 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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I’d like to see a Pope that follows the truth fiercely enough to get rid of the homos/pedophiles, instead of rotating them around in good standing.

If this doesn’t happen, the lamp grows dimmer.


8 posted on 03/11/2013 11:50:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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I do think it would be of great value for there to be movement in the direction of Orthodox unity. Something like a permanent ‘Diet’, an assembly of clergy with several purposes: cultural exchange, mutual support of oppressed Orthodox Christians around the world, and unanimous consensus opinions (difficult, but not impossible).

Ecumenism with Protestants would be both tricky and limited, however, as it would demand they embrace the unified Orthodox consensus, which few of them would agree to.


9 posted on 03/11/2013 11:53:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Gather At The River
10 posted on 03/11/2013 12:01:09 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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I bet the Cardinals do not count his vote.


11 posted on 03/11/2013 12:02:05 PM PDT by OKRA2012
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Ping!


15 posted on 03/11/2013 12:12:00 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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I think that’s probably what we all want!

Well, among other things...the next Pope has got his work cut out for him. I only hope that gets more support from the rest of the Church than did BXVI. Poor Benedict; the entrenched powers hated him because he was shining a light on their behavior.


18 posted on 03/11/2013 12:30:23 PM PDT by livius
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"I cannot escape that Jesus is saying that when the world sees the unity of Christians it will know that He was sent by the Father, and that the Father loves both the Son and the followers of the Son. This is seen so clearly in the reverse: when they see discord, disunity, disarray, then it easy for the world to dismiss us, the Father, and the Son. They say, "Those people are always fighting each other; who wants to be a part of that?"

This is a profound statement, xzins, and I love you for posting it.

To me, it's an if...then statement. Just like:

"If we forgive those who trespass against you, then Our Father will forgive us our trespasses",

He also says:

If the Church is in unity, then the world will know that You (the Father) sent Me."

That's how the Christians were defined in the beginning: "See these Christians, how they love one another."

The unity of Christians is either a "picture" of the unity of the Trinity, or, disunified, we are a "picture" of something else. Something menacing, disturbing, repellent and ugly.

Just a long way of saying... YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT THAT!

19 posted on 03/11/2013 12:37:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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xzins, I pray you get your wish. I would much prefer to see the acceptance and unity of coreligionists than the increasing acceptance of islam which is anti-christian from its core.


20 posted on 03/11/2013 12:40:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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The first 16 verses of Ephesians 4 demonstrate that the basis of true Christian unity is correct doctrine.

With the ecumenical push to ignore doctrinal differences for the sake of unity ... that unity would be merely for show ... and I'm not sure exactly what those who are calling for it hope to attain.

Only the Lord Jesus can bring unity ... and like most things ... it won't happen until His return in glory.

21 posted on 03/11/2013 12:43:07 PM PDT by dartuser (My firearm is not illegal ... its undocumented.)
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I have to disagree with the supposed “continuity” of the Catholic Church’s history. I’ve seen quotes from supposed early Popes denying the primacy of Peter and other important dogmas of the Catholic church, which allegedly had always existed without controversy. I also have a problem with the Catholics on their works-righteousness, and I’m always troubled to see the Pope standing side by side representatives of non-Christian religions.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 1:45:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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Christian Unity: We lift our prayer to the Lord.

12. Before the whole world let all Christians confess their faith in the triune God, one and three in the incarnate Son of God, our Redeemer and Lord. United in their efforts, and with mutual respect, let them bear witness to our common hope which does not play us false.

DECREE ON ECUMENISM - UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html

27 posted on 03/11/2013 2:26:30 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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I would like to see the pope buy a Bible.


29 posted on 03/11/2013 2:32:09 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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Thank you for this post.


47 posted on 03/11/2013 7:18:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I expect that the next pope will place a very high value on unity among the churches. However, with the radical left tilt to mainstream protestantism’s leaders despite chasing after them so hard for the last 40 years, the next popes will quite likely turn their emphasis to the Eastern churches. This might have some significant appeal to Anglicans and even several particular Lutheran churches (Church of Finland, for instance), but I expect it might feel to many Westerners, whether mainstream of evangelical, that the Catholic church is turning away from them.

Ecclesiastical Authority continuum:
<-———Evangelical———High Church Protestant———Orthodox-———Catholic-———>
BUT:
Liturgical style:
<————Evangelical-——High Church Protestant——Catholic———High Church Anglican-———Orthodox-——>
Theology:
<————Protestant-———High Church Anglican————Catholic———Orthodox——>
Culture:
<————Protestant-———High Church Protestant————Catholic———Orthodox——>


48 posted on 03/11/2013 7:19:05 PM PDT by dangus
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49 posted on 03/11/2013 7:20:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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