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Curia silences U.S. cardinals: “You talk too much”
Vatican Insider ^ | 03/ 7/2013 | Giacomo Galeazzi

Posted on 03/07/2013 9:39:39 AM PST by BlatherNaut

"...There is still no decision on the date but the Curia has imposed a media blackout so cardinals are not allowed to give information to the press. Tensions have been rising in the past few days, leading to yesterday morning's clash between “Romans” and “foreigners”.

(Excerpt) Read more at vaticaninsider.lastampa.it ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: americancardinals; conclave; curia
"The Dean of the College of Cardinals, Angelo Sodano and the Camerlengo, Bertone (who have formed an alliance against cardinals outside the Curia after eight years of mutual hostility) did everything in their power to contain the solid group of U.S. cardinals. In the name of transparency, U.S. cardinals had held a series of parallel news briefings with the press on the issues relating to the Conclave. The briefings were held at the Pontifical North American College where the cardinals are currently staying. For this reason on Monday Rigali, the U.S. cardinal who is closest to the Curia, was given the task, through Re, of letting his group know that these news briefings were inappropriate."
1 posted on 03/07/2013 9:39:43 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Yes, probably so. However, the catholic church also talks too much and so do a lot of catholics, but we are at a loss to get it stopped. Liberal Democrats also tell lies constantly and can’t get that stopped either. I guess when God’s ready, it will all stop.


2 posted on 03/07/2013 9:45:05 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Joe Jones: You Talk Too Much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOYYbiEul0


3 posted on 03/07/2013 9:46:00 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: BlatherNaut

Good, it’s supposed to be secret. The election isn’t supposed to be like American Idol with people phoning in their choice.

...Now somebody’s going to suggest that now that I wrote that.


4 posted on 03/07/2013 9:46:20 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44
Good, it’s supposed to be secret. The election isn’t supposed to be like American Idol with people phoning in their choice.

The Conclave will be secret. The preliminaries shouldn't be. My guess is that the Curial Cardinals are a bit touchy about other Cardinals, left right and all in between, stating emphatically that the Curia must be reformed. Sounds like Eminences Bertone and Sodano are taking the criticisms personally.

5 posted on 03/07/2013 9:53:52 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BlatherNaut; Shadow44

The Cardinals were giving general press conferences every day on different stages of the process, the significance of the ritual, etc. and not on anything that was actually being discussed. They felt that this would instill confidence in the openness of the process, and they did nothing to reveal anything “secret.”

The Italians, on the other hand, are busy as birddogs leaking the actual conferences to the Italian press. But the Dean of the College of Cardinals, Cdl Sodano, is not only an Italian, but one very opposed to BXVI and his appointments (which would mean most of the younger American cardinals).

Even the Italian press today had a commentator saying “The Americans are being punished for the sins of the Italians.”


6 posted on 03/07/2013 9:56:49 AM PST by livius
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To: BlatherNaut; NYer; Salvation
Very interesting twist to the reasoning for the Curia silence.

This is not the reason which was reported yesterday .....

A source familiar with the cardinals general meetings told CNA on background that the primary reason for the cancelation was that some Italian cardinals were divulging too much information to the Italian press.

He added that at this morning’s general meeting, the names of those cardinals who revealed too much were read off in front of the assembly. (!)

Either way, I completely support a media blackout. Get the secular 'flesh' out of the way to allow only the Spirit to dwell.

7 posted on 03/07/2013 10:02:12 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: BlatherNaut

seems our Twitter Culture is infecting even the Holy See


8 posted on 03/07/2013 10:19:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: livius

Yes, exactly.

The American Cardinals were merely talking to the press to try to educate them as to what this is all about. There were no secrets. The conclave is secret, but the conclave has not yet begun.

The problem is that Sodano and most of the Italian Cardinals think they should be the guys running the Church, and they really resent outsiders taking over—as they did with JP II and Benedict XVI.

Fortunately, they are being stupid behaving like this, and I doubt very much that it will line up much support for their insider views.


9 posted on 03/07/2013 10:21:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BlatherNaut

Isn’t that a 60s or 70s song, “Mother-in-law....You talk too much!”?


10 posted on 03/07/2013 10:27:55 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: BlatherNaut

Speaking to the American Press is a waste of time. No matter what they are told by Cardinals or Bishops the press will turn it into some slur of the Church. The best policy is to ignore them. They will publish their fiction anyway.


11 posted on 03/07/2013 10:50:33 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Shadow44

“The election isn’t supposed to be like American Idol...”

It is NOT like American Idol...the leaks are from Italian Cardinals to the Italian press...Cardinal Sodano has it deliberately wrong here...


12 posted on 03/07/2013 11:22:02 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: freedumb2003

George Thorogood: You Talk Too Much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHxFS9PiYM


13 posted on 03/07/2013 11:24:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Buckeye McFrog

To the Vatican curia, welcome to the age of 21st century social media.


14 posted on 03/07/2013 1:22:54 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: BlatherNaut

They even worry my pet.


15 posted on 03/07/2013 1:24:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That must be an updated version of a song from the with the same name.


16 posted on 03/07/2013 1:24:24 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: BlatherNaut

I saw this in the religon forum as well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2994551/posts


17 posted on 03/07/2013 1:28:49 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cicero

The Italian cardinals forget that the Church is global now.


18 posted on 03/07/2013 1:31:26 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
This is certainly nothing new . Before the election of john Paul II a number of Italian Vatican insiders made a determined effort to stampede the College of cardinals by launching a well orchestrated campaign of hysteria mongering in the complaint (corrupt and buyable might be a better word choice) Italian press that the Vatican was in a turmoil and the collapse of the papacy was imminent unless a particular elderly Italian cardinal was selected as the next Pope. This scam almost worked.
19 posted on 03/07/2013 1:36:17 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Servant of the Cross
Get the secular 'flesh' out of the way to allow only the Spirit to dwell.

Apparently some of the "flesh" ignoring the Holy Spirit is wandering around in cassocks.

With all the internecine squabbling, political manuevering and media manipulation going on, it will be a wonder if the Holy Spirit's guidance is even a factor for some of these papal electors.

20 posted on 03/07/2013 2:06:18 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
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21 posted on 03/07/2013 4:58:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut

To me it will be a miracle the Holy Spirit will even be able to get to work!


22 posted on 03/07/2013 5:44:44 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: BlatherNaut

Americans should shut up. All this chatter spends them out.


23 posted on 03/08/2013 6:22:02 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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