US Hispanics undergoing a 'Latino Reformation' (TIME Magazine Features the Evengelico's)

Ecumenical News ^ | 04/06/2013 | Elizabeth Dias

[RegulatorCountry]

Far be it for me to agree with Time on anything, but locally there are a lot of Iglesia Bautista churches popping up and quite a few of the more missionary-minded large Baptist churches are either sponsoring them or have growing Hispanic ministries. Protestant-identified Hispanic immigrants have been shown again and again to be far more likely to vote majority Republican.

I don’t like the policy of virtually unrestricted immigration from south of the border, think it’s very disruptive with the likelihood of altering the future political trajectory of this nation in ways that are not positive. But, if you can’t stem the tide convert it into something productive, I guess.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Same thing happening in S America for decades

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

La Muerte is a serious concern. It is clearly a throwback to an Aztec death deity, and one that has around 1m at least casual followers.

The biggest problem is that they could get a charismatic leader who could turn them into an army of Thuggees, murdering (and robbing) people in Mexico and the US as a matter of faith.

The British in India were finally made aware of the Thuggee when they were going to hang five or six robbers and murderers, and while up on the scaffold, they called out to their goddess, then jumped, hanging themselves before being hung.

So they brought over a major criminologist, who with the help of the British Army, pretty much exterminated them. They did rise up a second time, and the British didn’t hesitate at all in exterminating them. To wide, popular approval throughout India.

[Amberdawn]

Yes, but it makes you wonder why Catholicism is in retreat among them. It seems not to “stick” in a meaningful way among mexicans.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Remember that there’s a long history there, and not a particularly nice one. Most recently seen in the Cristero War of 1926-’29.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War

However the origins of anti-Catholicism in Mexico are somewhat like the anti-Catholicism of France, but with a twist. Historically, it wasn’t that long ago that the Indians of Mexico were pagans, and there was a lot of religious and secular persecution that went on for a very long time.

Even in the US, in living memory, though the church did not directly control public offices, as such, it had such inclusive social control over Catholics that it effectively got what it wanted in Catholic regions. And non-Catholics were pretty much shut out of the process.

In Mexico, by the time the atheists came to power, they wanted to do to the church what Henry VIII did to it in England, strip it of its properties, prohibit clergy from most public life, etc. There was real anger and hatred in what they did.

And to a great extent, there is still an undercurrent of that among Mexicans. While many are very devout, there are those who would not mind seeing the church destroyed.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Sorry, but black Catholics aren’t in those stats. Just black Protestants. Please read them again.

I know, but I have little reason to believe that black catholics vote differently from black protestants, it’s the “black” that seems to be the common factor.

Why do I say this? because over 95% of BLACKS vote Democrats. That doesn’t break things down into denomination, but this in itself is a strong indicator that whatever denomination they belong to doesn’t seem to affect their voting pattern.

[dragnet2]

Don’t get your hopes up..Republican Bush allowed in more Muslims after 911 than the previous two decades...During wartime yet.

[BillyBoy]

>> “They look at a kind of charismatic Protestantism as a way of becoming more American, of assimilating.” <<

>> Assimilating is not they’re main interest here. <<

And the article makes no logical sense considering there are far more Americans of Irish or Italian Catholic origin than those from "charismatic Protestantism" background. (About 70 million Catholics in the U.S. vs. 30 million charismatic protestants), not to mention that charismatic Christianity is ALSO a growing movement WITHIN Catholicism itself (nearly one-quarter of all charismatics in the U.S. are Catholics), so if Hispanics were interested in charismatic Christianity, they wouldn't have to convert from Catholic to protestant in order to join a charismatic congregation.

Makes as much sense as arguing Hispanics are embracing Obamacare in order to curry favor with the general public, IMO.

[Amberdawn]

Thanks for the info.

[terycarl]

RE: These Latinos, if they were baptized Catholic, will always be Catholic — regardless of where they go to church. Even if they don’t recognize the Pope as Primate of the Church any longer

you are not obligated to recognize the Pope to be a Catholic. For instance, protestants do not recognize the Pope as head of their church, but if they were legitimately baptized, they were baptized Catholic...

[SeekAndFind]

RE: but if they were legitimately baptized, they were baptized Catholic...

So, an atheist can also be a catholic? A Muslim can also be a Catholic if they were legitimately baptized as an infant?

[terycarl]

So, an atheist can also be a catholic? A Muslim can also be a Catholic if they were legitimately baptized as an infant?

that is correct. If the person was legiyimately baptized, he/she was baptized Catholic. There are more than a few who do not practice the faith that they were baptized into, but that's on them...