Posted on 05/30/2013 5:16:41 AM PDT by NYer
True.
No Catholic will ever defend the indefensible. Most of the sex abuse that took place dates back to the 50's and earlier, long before JPII. I would ask you, however, what is being done in non-Catholic communities to stop predatory sex abuse of children? This is not limited to the Catholic Church.
Sex Abuse of Children by Protestant Clergy.
The Catholic Church here, through its bishops in the USCCB, have implemented a program to prevent future occurrences. This includes all members of the community who come in contact with children, from janitors in the schools to volunteers who teach children at the parish level. We all are subjected to fingerprinting and a police background check. We are also required to attend classes on how to identify sexual predators and what actions to take. This is possible because of the centralized nature of the Catholic Church. It is also the reason why the media have been able to focus a laser beam on us. This is not possible in the non-Catholic denominations where there is no one to take responsibility.
Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year
Worse still, is the sex abuse of children in the education system.
WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY
And then there are the camp counselors, Big Brothers of America and the list goes on and on. There is plenty of guilt to go around.
Yeah, I tend to think Cardinal Burke is our modern day John Fisher.
And I’m going to put something else out there which won’t be popular by the “I love Pope Francis, don’t ever criticize him” crowd:
If this Pope sits back and does nothing to fix this mess in our Church then he is just to blame and he is just as suspect.
Did I miss something? Where did NYer run to the defense of the bishops?
That's exactly how I feel in regards to the American bishops: no real leadership whatsoever.
Heh, I’ve been thinking more like “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.
All I saw was a bunch of links celebrating Hesburgh. Do you have any that show his heresiarchal tendencies?
The blog Restore-DC-Catholicism has a batch of links. You can start at this post: Cardinal McCarrick Praises Culture Of Death Icon Father Hesburgh
"Land'o'Lakes"
"Rockefeller Foundation"
"population control"
"sex education"
"Randy Engel"
"women's ordination"
I didn’t take that to mean he was defending bishops specifically, but the Church as a whole in response to a typical anti-Catholic remark about how the Church only cares about $$.
Is the St. Vincent de Paul Society that helps the poor active on the east coast.
Sometimes when people visit the poor here — maybe they just moved into an apartment and have no furniture at all — they always check the bathroom and leave one roll of toilet paper and one bar of soap for them.
Simple things that aren’t always thought of.
I would put our new Archbishop, Alexander Sample in the very conservative bracket.
Bishop Robert Vasa who got moved from Eastern Oregon down to CA.
There are others. Pope Benedict gave us a lot of Bishops with spines.
That certainly is a legitimate reading of his post, but even so, it begs the issue that I was raising, to wit: is that really what the role of the Catholic Church should be? The Catholic Church, today or at any time in history is a reflection of the theological philosophy of the bishops and the pope. When dogma was considered to be immutable, the independent viewpoint of a bishop was tempered by the universal belief in the dogmatic truths of the Church. As a result of New Theology (neo-modernism) and the structural changes embraced by the Second Vatican Council, the bishops enjoy enormously more independence than they’ve ever had in history. As a consequence, the influence of the pope (even if it differed which it probably doesn’t very much) has been minimized.
So my criticism of the post was that NY’er was defending and applauding precisely what Dolan and the other modernist bishops are all about. They have abandoned almost all pretense of teaching the faith, and have instead focused virtually all of their energies and attention on humanitarianism and so-called “social justice”. Catholics are abandoning the Church in droves, and those that remain, happily pick and choose as to what they want to believe. Tragically, the parish priests (who are trained and directed by the bishops) totally ignore what they must see. Unmarried couple living together is an accepted way of life in the Church today without a word being said from the pulpit. Those that do marry practice artificial birth control, and the notion that homosexual behavior is a mortal sin is never ever spoken. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.
The article re-published by NY’er is absolutely true; and I commend Ny’er for bringing to our attention. But when we properly recognize that Dolan (and most other bishops) are standing for some very anti-Catholic secular behavior that is dragging many of the faithful of His Church away from eternal salvation, we should not only have the clarity of thought to understand what belief system these bishops are following that would so wrongly influence their thinking, but we should also have the courage to stand up and condemn it
I grew up in New Orleans in the 50s and 60s when integration was starting. The Archbishop was Joseph Francis Rummel, the likes of whom they don’t make any more. When the local KKK / White Citizens Council leader, one Leander Perez, publicly opposed Rummel, Rummel excommunicated him publicly. When some of Perez’s goons beat up a priest in reprisal, Rummel put Plaquemines Parish (county) under “interdict”. The catholic churches locked their doors: no church weddings, no church funerals, no last rites, no baptisms. Perez came back on his knees before Rummel (actually did) to apologize. Rummel slapped him in the face and walked away. Perez caved but he died excommunicated. After 60 days all the goons who beat up the priest were in prison.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but please give specific examples if you do.
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco. Pray for him.
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