[count-your-change]

That line of “defectors-in-place” IS the Catholic church. The Pharisees Jesus confronted were not a few bad apples.

[Mrs. Don-o]

To the extent that they are defectors, they are the anti-Church.

Was the Church on the day Christ died embodied in Judas the betrayer? Peter the denier? The rest of them, cringing in fear under their beds somewhere? Or was the Church embodied in that small group --- John, Mary, a few others --- at the foot of the Cross?