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To: verga; BipolarBob; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
BB:So now we know where the Church got its "burn the heretics at the stake" authority.

V: Yes that would be Jesus that gave His Church that authority:

Mat 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

So, Jesus authorized the burning of heretics at the stake?

Could you give us chapter and verse on that?

Is that the Roman Catholic church, officially approved, infallible interpretation of that verse?

Just when you think you heard it all....

Doesn't it want to make all the former Catholics just want to run right back into the churches loving arms again?

NOT!!!!!

463 posted on 06/01/2013 2:12:39 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“Doesn’t it want to make all the former Catholics just want to run right back into the churches loving arms again?”

Which church do you belong to?


465 posted on 06/01/2013 3:16:10 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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Met mommy I am still waiting for bobby to prove that he actually understands what binding and loosing is and what it meant to a first century Jew.

If he every gets back to me I will ping you, or if he gets back to you, then you can ping me. I know how you are about such thing.I mean if you can't contribute, you might as well just throw stones.

492 posted on 06/01/2013 5:01:34 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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So, Jesus authorized the burning of heretics at the stake?

Michael Servetus (Spanish: Miguel Serveto Conesa), also known as Miguel Servet, Miguel Serveto, Revés, or Michel de Villeneuve (29 September? 1509 or 1511 – 27 October 1553), was a Spanish theologian, physician, cartographer, and Renaissance humanist. Condemned by Catholics and Protestants alike, he was arrested in Geneva and burnt at the stake as a heretic by order of the Protestant Geneva governing council.

From 1535 to 1681 Tyburn was transformed into a place of cruelty, torture and execution for men and women because of their religious belief. It had become an act of high treason to be a Catholic priest, or to associate with Catholic priests. It was also legal treason to refuse to accept the monarch as “the only Supreme Head on earth of the Church of England”, in the reign of King Henry VIII, from 1534 onwards under Elizabeth I, Charles I and Charles II.

Tyburn had been a place of public spectacle where crowds gathered for entertainment. The martyrs, however, brought a new spirit into the barbarities and butchery of Tyburn. This new spirit was one of joy, spontaneous humour and wholehearted forgiveness of those who had brought them to their life’s end at Tyburn. This spirit flowed over into the crowds around the Tyburn Gallows. When Blessed Thomas Maxfield was dragged to the Tyburn Tree in 1616, the Gallows had been adorned with garlands of fragrant flowers while the ground around it was strewn with sweet-smelling herbs and branches of laurel and bay.

Blessed Philip Powel announced from the Tyburn Tree, “This is the happiest day and the greatest joy that ever befell me, for I am brought hither for no other cause or reason than that I am a Roman Catholic priest and a monk of the Order of St Benedict.” (1646)Tyburn tree

Saint Edmund Campion, Jesuit priest, prayed on the scaffold for those responsible for his death - “I recommend your case and mine to Almightie God, the Searcher of hearts, to the end that we may at last be friends in heaven, when all injuries shall be forgotten.” (1581)

Edward Morgan, priest, was reproved by a minister on the scaffold for being so cheerful. The martyr replied - “Why should anyone be offended at my going to heaven cheerfully? For God loves a cheerful giver.” (1642) ref

Matthew 7:5 - for the benefit of those who enjoy pointing fingers of blame.

543 posted on 06/01/2013 6:32:43 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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