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The Inventions of Rome
Modern Reformation ^ | W. Robert Godfrey

Posted on 10/08/2013 7:21:16 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;
this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?”
Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats 19 my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum
Then many of his disciples who were listening said, “This saying is hard; who can accept it?”
Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this, he said to them, “Does this shock you?
What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.
And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”
As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him
Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?”
Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.
We have come to believe and are convinced that you are the Holy One of God.”
Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you twelve? Yet is not one of you a devil?”
He was referring to Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot; it was he who would betray him, one of the Twelve.” [John 6: 49-71]


161 posted on 10/10/2013 8:46:49 PM PDT by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

No Catholic authority has ever said that receiving any of the sacraments without faith could possibly be profitable.

The authors you cite are saying that the Eucharist, as one example, is an apt metaphor for faith. I.e., we “devour” a book, we “drink in” the truth with our ears. They are recommending, in other words, that we should see how eating and drinking the Eucharist symbolizes very aptly how we should “eat” and “drink” the Word of God as it comes to us in other forms, Scripture in particular.

Pointing out that the sacraments are symbols shocks no one, least of all a Catholic. The DEFINITION of a sacrament is that it is a symbol!


162 posted on 10/11/2013 2:15:22 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You won’t answer whether or not you believe in the real presence in the Holy Eucharist?


163 posted on 10/11/2013 8:34:13 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

They don’t like that part of Catholic history...


164 posted on 10/11/2013 1:32:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Arthur McGowan
No Catholic authority has ever said that receiving any of the sacraments without faith could possibly be profitable.

So a priest is lying every time he baptizes a baby???

When you talk of faith, it is faith in your Church...

165 posted on 10/11/2013 1:36:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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