Posted on 10/17/2013 1:18:41 PM PDT by redleghunter
If you are familiar with Ray Comfort and the man on the street Way of the Master ministries, you will like this video. WoM ministries produced the linked youtube 30 minute video on Evolution vs. God. Ray and crew go to two CA universities to interview and debate science students and science faculty on Darwinian evolution.
So please set aside a half hour from your busy schedule and enjoy "Evolution vs. God."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ#t=743
1Ti_6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Evolution is falsely called science...Perhaps God annoys you as well...
There are two ideas, that without the existence of each, I should have become the most ardent of atheists....
The question of the origins of matter and energy which science can not even begin to touch and this premise of Paul’s...”If there be no resurrection of the dead, (including the first born of men, Christ Jesus) then let us eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die!”
Everything about Christianity hinges on the resurrection of Jesus. For it proves God’s love for man and it also supports everything else in the Bible as being true. If Christianity be not truth, then there is no other truth....thus why bother to live righteously, love your neighbor, help the stranger? Life would be nothing but a party, assuming you are the one at the top of the food chain...otherwise life becomes the law of tooth and claw, the survival of the fittest!
Bookmarking to read and share; thanks.
Are you saying God was incapable to create as revealed?
Come on you can do better than that.
Making assumptions without viewing?
A good statement, however nothing of the kind happens in the video.
I believe many Christians who believe in evolution do so because they don’t want to be seen as backward. It’s important to them for others to view them as intellectual, etc.
Personally, I couldn’t care less what people think of me.
Evolution and Christianity do not complement each other. In the New Testament, Jesus said that God created people “in the beginning.” Evolution teaches that humans are a recent arrival in the scheme of things.
Further, the Biblical creation account describes the Garden as a paradise with no death or suffering, until the fall. Evolution teaches millions of years of bloodshed among animals before mankind arrived. Evolution says death, suffering, and pain brought man into existence; the Bible says man’s sinful actions led to death. The two are completely contradictory.
Scripture says that God ended the work of Creation after He made it. It’s not still in the process of being finished and perfected. Right now the world and everything in it are under the curse that resulted from mans’ fall-—groaning in pain, waiting for God to restore it.
Upon finishing His work of creation, God looked on it and pronounced it “good.” But how could He, a holy, loving God, have called it that if He required millions of years of suffering and dying to finish it? That’s not what we know God’s nature to be.
The problem is that we have no way to understand the concept of eternity.
According to Darwinist William Provine and conservative Evangelicals one cannot correctly hold both views.
“Modern science directly implies that the world is organized strictly in accordance with deterministic principles or chance. There are no purposive principles whatsoever in nature. There are no gods and no designing forces that are rationally detectable. The frequently made assertion that modern biology and the assumptions of the Judaeo-Christian tradition are fully compatible is false.” William B. Provine, “Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life,” in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 65
I concur with the glaring obvious truthfulness presented by God through faith in Jesus Christ, of His Plan for all of us,..but quite truthfully, His Resurrection is merely secondary evidence of His stature. He has already presented more than overwhelming evidence of His being the Messiah for those who merely accept what He provides us through grace,
Thank you for a well thought out response. I think in our post-modern society can’t get past Genesis 1:1.
Interesting in the video Comfort mentions micro-biology is observable. I think we all agree because there is evidence. The changes of ‘kind’ is what he beats on. Then he shifts the interview to the “morals” of evolutionists. The part about the drowning dog and neighbor was telling. All those students chose to save the dog instead of the neighbor.
If you had time to see the video, Comfort entered with an ID approach. Meaning what we observe requires a designer.
One of the best modern era Christian philosophers was Francis Schaeffer. His ministry focused on big international university intelligentsia. Schaffer when confronted with the Genesis account would remind people that The Bible is God’s revelation to mankind. It is not a complete revelation by God of His complete Nature and Power. Schaffer went as far as to say most would argue what God revealed may not be the best answer they are looking for. In the second breath, he would then tell them, but it is the only answer.
Another point. God communicated Genesis in a very concrete language using a vocabulary for a nomadic people. I think if a dedicated scientist looked deeper into the text they might be surprised at what they find.
Where did the video make the faith vs. science claim. It did not. If you watched it you would see it employed the scientific model.
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Excellent post. And might I say the God of Resurrection certainly would not require billions of years to simply form a man from dust!
“Religious people who disrespect science are every bit as annoying as scientific people who disrespect faith.”
But neither of them are anywhere as annoying as those who think that Christians ought to live with falsely called “science,” not saying a word as stupidities go forward unchallenged.
“I think if a dedicated scientist looked deeper into the text they might be surprised at what they find.”
Interesting comment.
What do you mean? Can you expand on that?
Paul was saying that the resurrection of the dead was proof of God’s power, indeed of his existence. Otherwise Christianity is nothing but another dead religion. Christ was without sin, thus he had not incurred the wages of sin which was death. Christ was the love letter sent by God, his very imprimatur stamped into matter...the resurrection was God’s exclamation point and a sign of our future hope of such a same resurrection. No other religion makes such a promise in the way Christianity does; which is why there is such angry vehemence directed against it. Salvation simply by grace, by confession that Jesus is Lord and a belief that God has raised him from the dead? “Such offensive comments” cry the scoffers and critics!
No, my friend, Paul’s statement underscores the very importance of the resurrection to Christianity for if we have men coming back to life by the power of God, then we have indeed found the well springs of Life eternal. It proves Christ’s divinity, humanity, and his sinlessness.
Still, scientifically speaking, the concept of the resurrection would be considered at best a tautology, a question only answered within the heart and faith of the individual who considers Christ.
Paul posits the resurrection as a “if, then statement”. If Christ had not risen from the dead, then we might as well just live like the murdering, rutting animals we are by our very nature. There is no other hope but Christ, but our hope in Christ is in vain had he just been an enlightened rabble rouser killed by the Romans, whose body simply rotted in the ground like all the rest of us!
I agree the Resurrection verifies His Word, but our salvation is paid for at the Cross, not the Resurrection. The Resurrection is the First Fruits of one of our future rewards.
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