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Sad News About Charles Stanley’s In Touch Magazine
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=12341 ^ | July 25th, 2013 | Ligthouse Trails Editors

Posted on 10/19/2013 8:50:26 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: boatbums
When I hear this ridiculous talk (i.e., good works that save are not obedience to the “Law”), I often wonder if they get it that the “Law of Moses” contained the Ten Commandments. If the “good works” RCs claim must be done to be saved don't include not murdering, not committing adultery, not stealing, not honoring parents, not worshiping Almighty God alone, etc., then what kind of works ARE they????

That's an excellent question because there is the inference that there are good works that the believer can do that are somehow NOT covered in or by the Law.

481 posted on 10/29/2013 2:05:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: annalex
YOPIOS/VII
482 posted on 10/29/2013 2:39:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: annalex

HUH?

I’m gonna have to go with Pete here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-G0bkl8MQ


483 posted on 10/29/2013 3:04:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Yes. Grace is not by works. Catholic teaching.


484 posted on 10/29/2013 7:26:20 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: boatbums

What YOPIOS? That’s the Catechism.


485 posted on 10/29/2013 7:27:46 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
What YOPIOS? That’s the Catechism.

Okay, YOPIOS/VII/CCC. Happy now?

486 posted on 10/29/2013 9:03:03 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: annalex
Except that Catholicism teaches that Grace is doled out through the sacraments. ie works

Meanwhile, Scripture tells us that God LAVISHES His grace on us. He doesn't dispense in in stingy parcels when we do the right works.

Ephesians 1:3-14 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

487 posted on 10/30/2013 4:22:42 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom
God LAVISHES His grace on us

Thank you. That is Catholic teaching. Compare:

God is able to make all grace abound in you; that ye always, having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work (2 Corinthians 9:8)

488 posted on 10/30/2013 5:23:22 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Thank you. That is Catholic teaching.

No it isn't because the Catholic church teaches that it's through the sacraments that grace is dispensed and that is not done LAVISHLY.

489 posted on 10/30/2013 5:26:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

Not necessarily. Prayer also brings forth grace, and good works, and study of the Holy Scripture. Besides, where did you get the idea that the Sacraments do not pour out the grace lavishly?


490 posted on 10/30/2013 6:21:50 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

No Scripture to support that ANY sacraments impart ANY grace to the believer.

But to answer the question, if grace were imparted lavishly, it wouldn’t be lost every time we sinned and one would not have to go back for refills all the time.


491 posted on 10/31/2013 3:56:05 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: Elsie

bttt


492 posted on 10/31/2013 4:31:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
it wouldn’t be lost

It is not lost: it sustained the man till such time that he chose to sin.

493 posted on 10/31/2013 5:57:02 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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And then it’s gone.

The man loses it.

God’s grace is pouring down on all of us all the time.

Without His grace, we wouldn’t even be alive.


494 posted on 10/31/2013 5:37:35 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

Yes, all the time. That is what makes the world go round.


495 posted on 10/31/2013 7:12:33 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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