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As the word “traSUBSTANtiation” itself indicates, the SUBSTANce is what is changed—the properties remain the same. (Properties are not substance—they are found in a substance but are not the substance—basic traditional philosophy). Miraculously at times the properties have also done wonky things (lots of Eucharistic miracles out there), but this is not the norm.


9 posted on 12/05/2013 8:17:15 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus
As the word “traSUBSTANtiation” itself indicates, the SUBSTANce is what is changed—the properties remain the same.

That is a scientific impossibility and there is no way anyone could 'SUBSTANTIATE' otherwise, (your supposed miracles notwithstanding)...

It is something made up by the Catholic religion and Catholics supposedly are required to believe it, although most don't...Maybe none do...

41 posted on 12/05/2013 12:19:47 PM PST by Iscool
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