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Fox News columnist rips Pope Francis, loses Catholic News Service gig
Religion News Service ^ | December 6, 2013 | David Gibson

Posted on 12/07/2013 7:43:01 PM PST by ebb tide

Fox News columnist rips Pope Francis, loses Catholic News Service gig

Adam Shaw, an editor for the Fox News website, has been taking a lot of heat, even from some conservatives, for a rip-roaring assessment of the pope’s recent apostolic exhortation. His column is titled: “Pope Francis is the Catholic Church’s Obama – God help us,” which gives you a sense of where Shaw was coming from.

But if Shaw’s Fox job is safe — hey, when Rush Limbaugh is blasting the pontiff anyone else looks tame — his other gig, as a film and video game reviewer for Catholic News Service, is over as of yesterday.

Tony Spence, editor in chief of the wire service, which operates under the aegis of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said he had been “very pleased” with Shaw’s work, which included an analysis of the comics book industry. Spence said he knew that Shaw worked for Fox but it never caused a conflict — until this week. Spence wrote in an email:

“(W)hen he penned the recent piece on Pope Francis, comparing him to President Obama, and presenting it as an op/ed, he seriously compromised his credibility as an objective Catholic journalist for CNS. Had Adam merely reported on the pope’s apostolic exhortation, even citing unflattering sources, there would have been no problem. However, Adam’s caustic condemnation of the exhortation and of Francis himself, one of the key figures we cover daily with objectivity, fairness and certainly charity, left me little choice but to end his service with us.”

Spence wished Shaw well “at FoxNews.com and in all his future endeavors.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; cns; fairness; foxnews; objectivity; usccb
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To: NKP_Vet

Rough language, definitely, but I thought it a fair figurative description of much of modern jounalism when I first read it. And then soon after that, Marty Bashir opened his mouth and showed it wasn’t always figurative.


121 posted on 12/10/2013 10:27:09 AM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NKP_Vet
copr- dung Greek κόπρος (kopros) coprolite, coprophagia, coprophilia
122 posted on 12/10/2013 10:34:29 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: RichInOC

The real quote. And 100% on the money.

“Sometimes negative news does come out, but it is often exaggerated and manipulated to spread scandal. Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia: which is a sin that taints all men and women, that is, the tendency to focus on the negative rather than the positive aspects.”

The quote, by the way, is authentic. It comes from an interview on 24 February 2012 (on the occasion of the Consistory for the creation of new cardinals earlier that month) reported by the Italian journalist and veteran Vaticanista Andrea Tornielli, and it was published here.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/america-latina-latin-america-america-latina-12945/


123 posted on 12/10/2013 11:08:45 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet; RichInOC

>>The real quote. And 100% on the money.<<

I recommend you and Paul Woodward pick up Greek and Latin dictionaries and get schooled. Hopefully, Pope Francis is suffering the same problems.


124 posted on 12/10/2013 11:17:04 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Love a Pope who is blunt.


125 posted on 12/10/2013 11:19:31 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia: which is a sin that taints all men and women, that is, the tendency to focus on the negative rather than the positive aspects.”

It also leaves a bad aftertaste in the mouth.

126 posted on 12/10/2013 11:32:20 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

>>Love a Pope who is blunt.<<

Do you also love Martin Bashir? He’s blunt and also has a filthy mouth.


127 posted on 12/10/2013 11:35:13 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
"Love a Pope who is blunt."

I know two things. One, the Pope was chosen to make decisions. Two, I'm not the Pope.

128 posted on 12/10/2013 11:42:09 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: NKP_Vet
>>Every word Francis has said has been fact. <<

Really?

“We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for ‘the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable’ (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the Sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God[1] who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.”[2]

129 posted on 12/10/2013 11:42:48 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is it factually incorrect to claim the Jews do not worship an idol?


130 posted on 12/10/2013 11:44:54 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: NKP_Vet

Did Jesus stoop down and speak just as “bluntly” with flighty language as Archbishop Bergoglio has?


131 posted on 12/10/2013 11:48:17 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: RitaOK
Adam will be thinking “oops” soon, if not already. There comes a time when you give a good and kind old man some room for error, especially when his political experience has been narrow, compared to your own, and dangerous and corrupt.

You couldn't be more wrong. The pope's an incredibly powerful man in the world. There is absolutely no room for giving him a "pass" when he doles out terribly ignorant and misguided political statements that threaten to doom more people to poverty. If his knowledge is narrow, how can he be educated if no one tells him where he's going wrong? Shutting up and ignoring it doesn't help anybody.

I read the Fox News piece a week or two ago and it was spot on the money. Praise the writer for having the courage to speak truth to power. And shame on the church for saying the guy isn't allowed to even be a movie critic for them without sycophantically accepting everything the church's leaders say like a good little obedient sheep.

132 posted on 12/10/2013 11:51:28 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: FourtySeven

It is factually correct that Jews do not worship the Blessed Trinity, the Triune God: ask them for yourself. Now as far as idols, what’s the difference between them and false gods, if any?


133 posted on 12/10/2013 11:52:11 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“flightly” = “filthy”


134 posted on 12/10/2013 11:54:30 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ex-snook
One, the Pope was chosen to make decisions.

And Judas was chosen by Jesus Christ to make decisions; and Judas made a wrong decision.

135 posted on 12/10/2013 12:01:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

Who cares whether the writer of the piece is Catholic or not? Attacking the messenger is a classic logical fallacy that lets you avoid addressing the merits of the writer’s arguments.

Unless you’re card-carrying member of the “my church, right or wrong” Catholic FR brigade.


136 posted on 12/10/2013 12:01:13 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: ebb tide

The point is that before the Incarnation, it was not revealed to humanity that God truly is Triune. Therefore, before the Christ, the Jews did indeed worship the one true God and therefore, not an idol.

Now, those who remain Jews and reject Christ are one matter. For such people, we can only pray. However, it is also said by many (even many non-Jews) that the Jewish people are Jewish not only because of their religion, but also because of their heritage.

That is, they are a chosen people. The first chosen people. Chosen by God. Those who remain in the religion we can only hope do so out of invincible ignorance, after the Gospel has been offered, but beyond that it’s simply fact: the Jews are chosen by God. As a people. Meaning, a race of people.

It is in this context that, I’m sure, the Holy Father is speaking. The God they worship hasn’t changed. The only thing that has changed is our (meaning Man’s) understanding of who or what God is. (We understand a tiny bit more than before Jesus came on the scene)

But the same God is worshiped by both Christians and Jews. To say otherwise is akin to saying, “We know everything about God”, which is blasphemous.


137 posted on 12/10/2013 12:06:14 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
But the same God is worshiped by both Christians and Jews.

That is not true. Check out the traditional Good Friday prayer for the Jews.

138 posted on 12/10/2013 12:09:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Here is the original Fox News article discussed on FR:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3098553/posts?page=1


139 posted on 12/10/2013 12:12:41 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: ebb tide

140 posted on 12/10/2013 12:15:04 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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