Posted on 12/31/2013 4:03:29 AM PST by markomalley
PLEASE don’t let Cardinal Mahoney see this! He’ll have a FIT!
The atmosphere is disturbed by cloudy implications and eager, but divided inferences.
Missing is clarity.
Not helpful is the treatment of the obvious language barrier that this Pope suffers in many cases, and the slingshot media end-running everybody with their premature interpretations of cherry picked remarks of Pope Francis.
The public face of the Pope’s communications seems to be too confusing and uncertain to be all that comforting, because of the back tracking, restating and elaborating required to decipher the content and context of what he says.
His good deeds, however, speak volumes and are superior to the cloudy conversations. The Holy Father kindness to the languishing is a witness to Christ Jesus himself. May God bless him.
Since when has Mahony given a rat's behind about what comes out of the Vatican?
Bishop conference presidents are infinitely closer to being vice-popes than popes are to being vice-Christs. At least bishops conference presidents have the potential to eventually become pope. Of all Rome’s blasphemies, the papal claim of “vicar” is among her worst.
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26)
Hallelujah!
3 questions before I make a comment:
1) Do you actually understand what the word “vicar” means? (If so, please “illuminate” me)
2) Are you asserting that the Holy Spirit is the Vicar of Christ?
3) What denomination are you?
How do you judge a Church teaching to be blasphemous? By your personal interpretation of Scripture?
Luther's doctrine of "the Bible alone as the sole rule of faith" isn't found in the Bible. Additionally, Jesus said...
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a heathen or publican." --JesusDr. Scott Hahn on the papacyIsaiah 22:22
I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.
Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Rev. 3:7
“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: ‘The words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, who shuts and no one opens.
If you don’t accept the authority of the Pope as the Vicar of Christ, then none of this discussion about the role of a national bishops’ conference should be of any interest to you at all.
Scott Hahn..lol
You got a point there!
Because I’m a Christian, anything done in The Master’s name is of utmost concern. Not to mention, souls are at stake. A believer born of the Spirit should address error and blasphemy where it’s encountered. The results of my words are in His hands. Perhaps you won’t change your mind, but God may be pleased to use my post to prod some unknown reader reader to investigate and discover and the truth about Christ and the identity of His true vicar. He has promised His word always accomplishes His purpose.
“So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11)
If picking up the Bible and reading it guaranties the Holy Spirit will teach you privately what it means without help from proper authority how is it that that method has produced 30,000 different Protestant denominations since the 16th century?
1 Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion.
The same underlying influence that caused religions like Islam, Mormon, Catholicism, and any other religion that distorts scripture. It’s Satan’s lies. He even tried in on Jesus who quoted scripture to counter his half truths.
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14)
I have no idea the source for your 30,000, but it’s a meaningless figure that proves nothing whatsoever. Think, FRiend! Don’t just parrot something you’ve read. Don’t let meaningless statistics deceive you. Most religion is false religion. Satan does his best work in the arena of faith. Christ Himself said there will be MANY who toiled in His name who are cast away.
“Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’” (Matthew 7:22-23)
I cannot think of a more fearsome passage in all the Scriptures. Being deceived about your standing with The Lord is an awful thing.
How do I know that you are not under the same influence?
To whom do I go to check your interpretation of Scripture?
Scripture.
Pope Francis seems to support further decentralization. Evangelii Gaudium can't be dismissed in the manner that one might dismiss his "off-the-cuff" remarks. And he has also been characterized as an autocratic decision maker.
Funny, we picked the same line to highlight. Time will tell what actually happens here, but there's an awful lack of clarity these days. It's as if the Church is in a state of brain fog.
Vicar is sometimes translated as “deputy.” As in deputy sheriff. So don’t get your panties in a wad.
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