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To: Steelfish

There is no compelling reason to believe that Jesus was saying the bread and wine at the Last Supper became his actual blood and flesh. He also said He was the Bread of Life - is He a loaf of bread? He said “I am the Door” - is He now wood with hinges? He prayed over Jerusalem, “how I long to gather you under my wings as a hen gathers her chicks” - so now He is a chicken with feathers? Jesus was the “The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” - so now He is an actual sheep?

I see nowhere in the New Testament that the bread and the wine becomes Christ’s flesh and blood. I see plenty of symbolism in the NT that communicates God’s Truth without Jesus becoming bread, wood, a sheep, a chicken - and, I also see that the bread and wine of the Last Supper are eloquent and beautiful symbols that communicates the sacrifice of the Incarnate God in our behalf.

I know there is no way we are going to agree, but I felt compelled to try.

On the other hand, though I am very much a Baptist, I bear no animosity toward my Catholic Brothers and Sisters. We are servants of Christ, and it is to Him that we must give an account - not you to me nor me to you.


13 posted on 01/05/2014 3:13:33 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: berdie

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14 posted on 01/05/2014 3:19:52 PM PST by berdie
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To: rusty schucklefurd

-— I see nowhere in the New Testament that the bread and the wine becomes Christ’s flesh and blood -—

23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

1 Cor 11


16 posted on 01/05/2014 3:41:45 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

This is pure poppycock. You can eat doors and handles and lanterns. The early Church fathers all accepted this Catholic belief.

Here’s the refutation for those with an open mind.

http://www.catholicfaithandreason.org/the-body-and-blood-of-christ-i.html


19 posted on 01/05/2014 3:47:46 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
On the other hand, though I am very much a Baptist, I bear no animosity toward my Catholic Brothers and Sisters. We are servants of Christ, and it is to Him that we must give an account - not you to me nor me to you.

John 17 has: Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

129 posted on 01/06/2014 7:16:59 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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