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To: daniel1212

Pure foolishness. Back to question #1. Christ used the word “Church” and question #2 who gets to authoritatively interpret Scripture?

Billy Graham? Al Sharpton? Jim Jones? Rev. Schuller, Martin Luther? Calvin? Wesley? AnaBaptists? Mormons? …ok I get the point anyone can find, choose, and pick their flavor and no wonder we have the mega churches of the prosperity gospel. This is the lunacy the one true Catholic Church has to contend with heretical faiths.


169 posted on 01/08/2014 8:06:27 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Back to question #1. Christ used the word “Church” and question #2 who gets to authoritatively interpret Scripture?

Back to question #1. Christ used the word “Church” and question #2 who gets to authoritatively interpret Scripture?

"Back?" The issue is not that "It belongs to synods and councils, ministerially to determine controversies of faith, and cases of conscience; to set down rules and directions for the better ordering of the public worship of God, and government of his Church; to receive complaints in cases of maladministration, and authoritatively to determine the same" (Westminster), but whether the church is the supreme and (conditionally) infallible authority, and thus able to teach as doctrines such tradition of men as the Immaculate conception, Purgatory and Indulgences, papal infallibility (all of the EOs reject because they are untraditional) and Assumption.

Thus question #1 was upon what basis is your assurance that Rome is the one true infallible church, and conditionally infallible.

You seemed to affirm your basis for assurance rested upon evidence, even though objectively examining evidence, with Scripture being supreme, to determine the veracity of RC doctrine would render you reasoning as an evangelical.

You ignored your problem here and proceeded to go wityh more irrelevance and another rant, thus the basis for your assurance remains to be the issue.

If the answer as to your basis for assurance rests upon the premise of Rome being assuredly correct, for which is invoked historical descent and the "we gave you the Bible" argument, then the questions 2 and 3 are,

2. where can you show in Scripture (in condescension to me) that being the instrument and steward of Scripture and having historical descent means such steward is infallible, and,

3. that an infallible magisterium is necessary in order to recognize and establish writings as Scripture, and determine and preserve Truth, and as critical for you to have assurance.

Billy Graham? Al Sharpton? Jim Jones? Rev. Schuller, Martin Luther? Calvin? Wesley? AnaBaptists? Mormons?

This rant avoids the unity that historically made the fundamental evangelical movement the chief threat to cults, liberals and Rome, while that RCs also interpret their interpreter ending up with factions and sects, while the RC model ends up with competing claims btwn elitist sola ecclesia churches as being the OTC, and that this was not the basis upon which the church began, in the face of competing claims.

Any more rants and refusing to deal with the fundamental questions i presented will not simply marginalize you more but render further diversionary rants to be ignored

170 posted on 01/09/2014 3:07:45 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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