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After a schism, a question: Can atheist churches last?
CNN Belief Blog ^ | 01/05/2014 | Katie Engelhart

Posted on 01/05/2014 6:51:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: donmeaker
Changing the subject.

I guess that means you have no faith in G-d either.


For full disclosure, I'm a Bible-thumping independent baptist. My faith is built on nothing less than Jesus’s blood and righteousness, as the old Hymn goes.

Why is the historic account of the Bible not to be considered regarding the authenticity of the book's claims when you ask for proof?

So many details of Jesus’s life were predicted hundreds of years before. Including that where he would be born (Micah 5:2), and how he would die (Psalm 22, John 19:37); both hard to imitate. There are just a few of the examples that were given. We have multiple eyewitness accounts to the resurrection (Acts 1:3). What more proof could you ask than that God would send his Son? As it says in Romans 5:8 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” There is evidence, seek and ye shall find.

62 posted on 01/06/2014 2:54:06 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: dfwgator

Well those people weren’t atheists Gator..
They just believed in the wrong designer God..


64 posted on 01/06/2014 3:09:35 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Listen to “Reverend” Jones’ speeches...He was an atheist Marxist.


65 posted on 01/06/2014 3:11:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Listen to “Reverend” Jones’ speeches...He was an atheist Marxist.


I doubt Jones followers listened much...
They just did what they were told..

A problem with many religious types..
They do what their told.. beyond the yada yada yada...
Tell them what to do.. the details hurt their heads..


66 posted on 01/06/2014 3:19:37 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: redleghunter

All that is needed to cause heat in in a fixed volume Hell is the steady compression caused by the addition of all the souls that enter it every year.


67 posted on 01/06/2014 4:24:42 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: redleghunter

All I want is evidence.

You wouldn’t want to make the wrong decision in this matter.

It may be we are both atheists when it comes to the great number of G-ds that have ever been worshiped. I just have one fewer than you.


68 posted on 01/06/2014 4:26:43 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

The historic account of the bible is considered and rejected, in part because there was much manufacture of ‘pious frauds’ which were rejected by the early church.

Gospel of Thomas
Acts of Peter
Gospel of Peter

Example of error in Bible accounts include

(1) Virgin Birth (we know that doesn’t happen. What happens is mothers deny having sex)

(2) Jesus being born in time of Census (AD6) and time of Herod (BCE 4)

(3) Authors of Matthew and Luke copying material from Mark


69 posted on 01/06/2014 4:33:05 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
What more proof could you ask than that God would send his Son?

Begging the question.

70 posted on 01/06/2014 4:34:19 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Greater is He that is in me than He who is in the world. Looking for evidence of that which is foundational is a special type of blindness. Look within to find what you seek.

Bingo!

71 posted on 01/07/2014 8:26:55 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: donmeaker
All I want is evidence.

This reminds me of the old joke:

A nurse struggles into her hospital's employee entrance, bruised and battered, her clothing torn and hair in a mess. She has obviously been in a physical struggle.

A group of nurses run towards her and begin treating her abrasions, holding her up under the arms.

"What happened to you?" they yelled.

"I was raped!" she sobbed.

"What kind of a monster would do such a thing in a hospital parking lot?" chorused the other nurses. "Do you know who it was? Have you seen him before?"

"I don't know who he was," sobbed the victim, "but I can tell you this -- it was a doctor!"

"How do you know?" they cried.

"Because," she replied, "I had to do all the work!"

72 posted on 01/07/2014 8:46:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: donmeaker

bye


73 posted on 01/07/2014 9:50:40 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: donmeaker
Well perhaps not fair that I should get the last word in, but I felt an answer was deserved.

I did some cursory history review and according to at least one source the Census is estimated to have taken place in 6 BC 2 years before Herod died. Also to my knowledge; most Bible Scholars estimate Mark was the Gospel written first, the fact they agree in their accounts (though they do not all cover the same events) would strengthen the historic account. Indeed considering the nature of eyewitnesses it would take a miracle to get the kind of agreement present in the gospels.

If an ‘agnostic’ requests proof in the form of a miracle and then rejects that miracles can happen, are they really agnostic?

74 posted on 01/07/2014 10:29:08 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy; donmeaker
If an ‘agnostic’ requests proof in the form of a miracle and then rejects that miracles can happen, are they really agnostic?

It'll be a miracle if donmeaker replies.

75 posted on 01/07/2014 10:32:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: wardaddy

ping


76 posted on 01/08/2014 11:56:44 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

He was a nutty poster.

And that’s being kind


77 posted on 01/14/2014 9:37:15 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructede today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: wardaddy

Not to mention dishonest and disrespectful. That last trait is what got him sent to the cornfield.


78 posted on 01/14/2014 10:16:22 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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